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Post by hornetroid on Oct 18, 2019 14:24:55 GMT -5
As a fan of moody 80's synth I'm digging most of this album. It's Mark's love letter to that era I believe, but one love letter is enough for me.
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Post by silence on Oct 18, 2019 14:33:37 GMT -5
The Friday/Tuesday thing goes back to when charts mattered - releases would be the day after the format's charts were compiled to max out the first week's sales (Thursdays for UK, presumably Mondays for the US). Not very exciting and completely pointless now, but there you go. Album sales - especially vinyl ones - tend to go through the labels directly (or Bandcamp) now as it's largely the only way that the labels really profit. Vinyl is produced in such low numbers and there's still hardly any pressing plants that individual copies are really expensive to produce so buying direct maxes out what little profit remains Not listened to it yet (which feels weird as this is the first one since No Bells that I haven't reviewed so haven't had an advance copy), my LP arrived today so am working up the wine levels before giving it a spin (along with new Ed Harcourt thing, really looking forward to that one!) - have just taken off Joy Division's Closer to make room for this, feels nicely apt. Really good 5-page interview with Mark in this month's Mojo (Neil Young on the cover), goes into some really dark past places as well as having a bright present.
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Post by bmf on Oct 18, 2019 14:43:55 GMT -5
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Post by skezz on Oct 18, 2019 18:23:55 GMT -5
Really seems as though in this day and age, everyone should have access to the album at the same time. Yes, almost every album gets leaked and if you have to go that route you do, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about all the fans who preorder a release months in advance - because everything seems to be done by preorder now. So you anticipate hearing it, you pay months ahead and anticipate receiving it - and then find you're not going to get it when everyone else is. I did not order vinyl because I don't have a place to play it. I mainly listen in my car anyhow, but I still choose to buy a physical CD because I like to have something to hold onto and look at and put on my shelf when it's something I really care about. I don't know how to do this anymore. Used to be simple - order it from whoever your favorite seller is and be done. Now - I feel like I have to order it from the label directly. But if I order from a label that is outside my country, it costs a whole lot in overseas shipping, and it tends to arrive later than release date. So...maybe order from my county's affiliate for the label? I did that earlier this year with another preordered record, and I received not days, but WEEKS after the release date. So this time I decided just go straight to Amazon. It's easy, they get stuff to me on time, and it should be fine. Except Amazon sent out an email that although the UK release date is 10/18, I won't receive mine until 10/22 - I'm guessing because the US releases happen on Tuesday instead of Friday? How does that make sense? So if I ordered vinyl, I'd have it already? Was that posted somewhere and I missed it? Not picking on just Mark's record or label, I have been finding this every time I preorder lately. It's a crap shoot who's going to get it to you when it comes out, and that sucks. At least let everyone who ordered it have access to a digital copy at the same time, maybe? It's frustrating, and one more thing I don't have time to try to keep track of - who gets what to who more quickly. I just want to BUY it, and GET it - when did that become so difficult? In the meantime I will just have to read what everybody else thinks of it because somehow I chose the 'wrong' way to buy it. Sorry for the rant, but if labels are going to be pissed about how low record sales are these days, they need to keep better control over how things are released and allow everyone who pays in advance to get things when they come out. /rant Excellent. Really getting tired of it myself, also. About ready to forget anything new and just stick to the old vinyl. And if I want 80's music, I'll just stick on Wall Of Voodoo. I had the same issue with Amazon. I contacted them asking for my autorip and they added it within 5 minutes so might be worth doing that too. Also little bit of trivia all albums globally are released on Fridays now.
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Post by username2500 on Oct 18, 2019 22:38:32 GMT -5
Ya know if Santa Claus can get in a sleigh and deliver toys around the world all in one night, than Dark figgin Mark Lanegan can get on a broomstick and fly around delivering CDs/ vinyl/ 8-tracks/ what have you to us all!!!! I mean really! Get yer act together. Lol, silly me. I didn't coordinate to order online (how I've been buying music these last several years....bit sick of supporting Goliath Amazon... though the prices are so good... ) Thought I could walk into a record store and buy the CD today on release date. I mean, I live in NYC, center of the world, there gotta be a record store here that I can just walk in and buy it, right ... No dice. [Don't remember the last time I walked into a store to buy a specific CD? ] Sigh, I still miss Virgin Music Megastore in Union Square. Was my go-to location for music buying... I now have it on order tru Academy Records on 18th St, them & Academy on 12th both said 'for new release CDs try Rough Trade' [in Brooklyn]. lol, I dont wanna go to Brooklyn... Call to them got: 'let me check, I know we have it on vinyl.... all out in CD, our CD copies were sold out by pre-order... we should be getting more in next week'. Alas, and so it goes. I'll live not having it on release date... perhaps will pull them up online. Cheers, gotta go, Somebody's Knocking
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Post by raeni on Oct 18, 2019 22:54:19 GMT -5
I had the same issue with Amazon. I contacted them asking for my autorip and they added it within 5 minutes so might be worth doing that too. Thanks for that idea, I asked them and they let me have the AutoRip too, so at least now I can put it on my iPod and finally hear it!
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Post by wheels132 on Oct 19, 2019 7:28:05 GMT -5
On the whole, this one's going to take some time to grow on me. As others have stated, the production leaves a lot to be desired. IMO the distortion effect was used masterfully on an album like Bubblegum, but on several of the songs on Somebody's Knocking it sounds straight up sloppy (Stitch It Up, Gazing from the Shore).
Dark Disco Jag is bad ass though and Penthouse High is a blast.
If you're a fan of his softer, upper register croon then you'll be disappointed with this album as there's not much of that here at all except for maybe the closing track, which I'm still warming up to. With his vocals buried so far in the mix on most songs, there are really no strong vocal highlights on the album. If you listen to track from one of his previous albums, then immediately play one of the new songs, there's a STARK difference in the vocal mix. It's really unfortunate. I'll give it a few more spins, just sharing my initial reactions. Not a weak album by any means and definitely has potential to grow.
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Post by skezz on Oct 21, 2019 13:23:29 GMT -5
I had the same issue with Amazon. I contacted them asking for my autorip and they added it within 5 minutes so might be worth doing that too. Thanks for that idea, I asked them and they let me have the AutoRip too, so at least now I can put it on my iPod and finally hear it! So I noticed today that my order is now marked as they will email when the item becomes available. I had a quick search and found the CD in stock however at around £16. I saw that the URL for the preorder and the current in stock CD are different. I contacted customer service and after talking to several customer service agents they refunded me with a credit for the price difference and cancelled my order so I've had to reorder it with the new listing you and anyone else in the same situation should do the same is my advice.
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Post by ♫ ♪ on Oct 21, 2019 14:16:06 GMT -5
anyone in the US order from srcvinyl.com? i just canceled my order there since they never got back to me about it being shipped in time for the release date. i ended up finding it in a local record store on Saturday.
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Post by wheels132 on Oct 21, 2019 19:57:44 GMT -5
I ordered a signed version of the limited blue vinyl from recordstore.co.uk back in May and I've yet to receive a shipping notice. I'm going to follow up with them tonight. Got my CD on release day through Amazon.
On a side note, this album has grown tremendously on me over the last few days. The only two songs I still feel underwhelmed by are are Stitch It Up and She Loves You.
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Post by ♫ ♪ on Oct 21, 2019 21:45:08 GMT -5
I ordered a signed version of the limited blue vinyl from recordstore.co.uk back in May and I've yet to receive a shipping notice. I'm going to follow up with them tonight. Got my CD on release day through Amazon. On a side note, this album has grown tremendously on me over the last few days. The only two songs I still feel underwhelmed by are are Stitch It Up and She Loves You. Stitch it up is a middle of the road song for me, she loves you is definitely my least favorite too
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Post by hangingtree on Oct 22, 2019 13:20:20 GMT -5
I like it more than I thought I would altthough I already can say this will not be my favourite Laengan-album.
Radio Silence is great. Letter never sent and Nightflight to Kabul definitely grow in the album context.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 15:02:23 GMT -5
I didn't like "Stitch It Up" at all when I first heard it, but after listening to it in the context of the whole album, I dig it. My favorite's "Gazing from the Shore" though.
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Post by nobody on Oct 22, 2019 18:33:07 GMT -5
anyone in the US order from srcvinyl.com? i just canceled my order there since they never got back to me about it being shipped in time for the release date. i ended up finding it in a local record store on Saturday. Same here. Still waiting on customer service and don't have a local vinyl shop. Regardless, I'm done with vinyl preorders across the board. Not singling out Mr. Lanegan, it's happening everywhere.
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Post by wheels132 on Oct 22, 2019 20:10:48 GMT -5
I like it more than I thought I would altthough I already can say this will not be my favourite Laengan-album. Radio Silence is great. Letter never sent and Nightflight to Kabul definitely grow in the album context. Yes this is a good point and something that really hit me over the weekend too. I honestly wasn't fully blown away by any of the 4 singles released before the whole album, BUT the songs pop much more in the context of the whole album. The transition from Playing Nero to Penthouse to Paper Hat to Name and Number in particular is terrific. I think I'd dig Stitch It Up more if the production was better; it sounds like a demo or something, but fortunately none of the other songs are quite as bad from a production standpoint. I was initially underwhelmed by Gazing and Paper Hat but now I love 'em. This really is a stellar effort all the way through.
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Post by dresi on Oct 23, 2019 1:47:57 GMT -5
Yeah, the album flows really, really well. That was my main issue with the last two albums. It felt to me the songs were just randomly thrown together. Plaing Nero - Penthouse High - Paper Hat is definitely my favorite part of the album. Amazing songs.
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Post by ♫ ♪ on Oct 23, 2019 9:32:24 GMT -5
The “till it hurts” part in disbelief suspension sounds like he’s really hurting.
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Post by ken on Oct 25, 2019 6:38:49 GMT -5
I'm enjoying this much more than I expected from the early releases. It's quite upbeat, almost chirpy!
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Post by frankblack on Oct 25, 2019 15:20:09 GMT -5
anyone in the US order from srcvinyl.com? i just canceled my order there since they never got back to me about it being shipped in time for the release date. i ended up finding it in a local record store on Saturday. I did the preorder for the signed copy which arrived last week. I think it is cheaper in bigger stores like Fopp and HMV at around £10.
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Post by glt on Oct 26, 2019 5:48:04 GMT -5
I'm actually really enjoying it.
It definitely flows together well and I think the songs released as singles sound better when combined in the album as a whole.
Really enjoying Penthouse High,Paper Hat, War Horse and Disbelief Suspension in particular buy I think at this moment, Night Flight to Kabul is my favourite.
It's an album it really sounds like he's enjoyed making and I'm looking forward to hearing the new tracks live in London in December.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2019 17:24:54 GMT -5
Haven't been able to get "Gazing From the Shore" out of my head.
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Post by Psychotropic Snake on Nov 2, 2019 13:42:17 GMT -5
I've listened to the record some three times and I must say that I'm not completely blown away by it. I get the feeling it might be a grower, though, so I'll press on. My favorites so far are Paper Hat, Gazing From The Shore, Night Flight To Kabul and War Horse.
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Post by wheels132 on Nov 2, 2019 14:16:35 GMT -5
I've listened to the record some three times and I must say that I'm not completely blown away by it. I get the feeling it might be a grower, though, so I'll press on. My favorites so far are Paper Hat, Gazing From The Shore, Night Flight To Kabul and War Horse. That's how I felt after the first few listens. After a few more days the several songs started getting stuck in my head and the album as a whole grew on me big time. Now aside from a few songs I really love it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 16:49:19 GMT -5
I've listened to the record some three times and I must say that I'm not completely blown away by it. I get the feeling it might be a grower, though, so I'll press on. My favorites so far are Paper Hat, Gazing From The Shore, Night Flight To Kabul and War Horse. That's how I felt after the first few listens. After a few more days the several songs started getting stuck in my head and the album as a whole grew on me big time. Now aside from a few songs I really love it. Just out of curiosity, what are the songs you're not into? "Disbelief Suspension" is pretty much the only song I think is just alright, but I can see even that growing on me.
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Post by wheels132 on Nov 3, 2019 17:25:23 GMT -5
That's how I felt after the first few listens. After a few more days the several songs started getting stuck in my head and the album as a whole grew on me big time. Now aside from a few songs I really love it. Just out of curiosity, what are the songs you're not into? "Disbelief Suspension" is pretty much the only song I think is just alright, but I can see even that growing on me. I don't feel any of the songs are bad, but Stitch It Up and She Loved You are the only ones I tend to skip over. Stitch It Up sounds much better in context with the album, but the production feels lacking, almost too rough, like a demo rather than something that was ready for the final album cut. She Loved You is a bit boring musically and lyrically, just felt like it could have been more given how much real estate it takes up on the latter half of the album. Everything else though...fantastic! Disbelief Suspension had to grow on me, but I love it now, aggressive and relentless--it's a bad ass opener for this kind of album.
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