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Post by ♫ ♪ on Jan 22, 2024 15:58:59 GMT -5
If nothing was finalized It might not happen at all. There was also quite some blowback when the tour stock of live recordings were released I think last year(?) This might have turned off the estate on releasing anything else.
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Post by ♫ ♪ on Jan 22, 2024 16:55:27 GMT -5
Having said that, there's so much other great music out there, and it's not like anything is owed to the fans so personally I wouldn't reach out to management or estate. They'll do or not do whatever they feel like.
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Post by ken on Jan 23, 2024 7:20:34 GMT -5
Having said that, there's so much other great music out there, and it's not like anything is owed to the fans so personally I wouldn't reach out to management or estate. They'll do or not do whatever they feel like. Fair comment.
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Post by tripledistilled on Jan 26, 2024 12:20:14 GMT -5
Having said that, there's so much other great music out there, and it's not like anything is owed to the fans so personally I wouldn't reach out to management or estate. They'll do or not do whatever they feel like. Agreed, and the radio silence from the Lanegan camp seems to indicate that it was probably Lanegan running the whole show, from recording to releasing albums, both on label and self-released. Didn't he fire his management around 2017 because they didn't book a tour? The guy didn't mess around and was clearly calling all the shots. Look how the Sleeve Notes publishers, Pomona, replied about reprinting that book - their deal was with Lanegan personally, and they weren't sure of the legal rights behind reprinting. Legal stuff can bring all kinds of weird chills (see what I did?!). And, while there are probably hard drives of recorded stuff with his various producers and engineers, perhaps no one wants to touch anything until his widow (who will presumably inherit all the rights and ownership) is willing and able to start such a project. When it comes to a sudden loss, we never know how long people might grieve for a death, let alone having to listen to your dead husband's voice in a studio. Remember, it took The Doors six years after Jim Morrison died before they embarked on the An American Prayer album, and ten years for Led Zeppelin to revisit their catalogue. And 24 years for The Beatles! But they're bands and Lanegan was a solo artist, so who knows. On another note, perhaps it is refreshing that there have been no posthumous quick cash-ins. Even the third and final Amy Winehouse album appeared cobbled together and didn't get much love. I guess we'll just have to keep digging the many existant releases.
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Post by jb052983 on Jan 28, 2024 21:53:18 GMT -5
Well said and agree 100% with you, triple distilled. Videos such as the Other Voices 2020 were pulled off of YouTube due to legal/contract issues. Two years is not a long time for someone to grieve, particularly since he and Shelley were together for many years, or for an estate to be settled or not to put out new music.
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Post by cameron4321 on Jan 31, 2024 14:04:08 GMT -5
If I recall, Joe Cardamone said in an interview that there were more songs that they recorded, which will probably be released at some point (when Joe is done with them). Black Phoebe has more music as well.
I'm sure the floodgates will open over time....
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Post by rimb on Jan 31, 2024 17:00:52 GMT -5
That's nice to hear. I suspect it will be more of a trickle than a flood though!
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Post by cameron4321 on Feb 1, 2024 13:47:11 GMT -5
I'd love to see a box set / repress of all of the live records he sold at his concerts. Also, there were plenty of the live cds that never were never pressed to vinyl as well.
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Post by rimb on Feb 1, 2024 17:48:44 GMT -5
I'd love to see a box set / repress of all of the live records he sold at his concerts. Also, there were plenty of the live cds that never were never pressed to vinyl as well. I highly doubt we'll see any of those again. I suspect there were some publishing/royalty issues that were skirted around by selling them in small quantities at gigs only. Some may remember some of the early ones being sold online briefly but they quickly disappeared.
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Post by kingdomsofrain on Feb 4, 2024 1:11:07 GMT -5
I still can’t listen that much, too raw for me so I can only imagine what family members are going through. The lack of ‘cash grab’ is refreshing and respectful but I hope to see a steady stream of releases in time. Maybe starting 2025/2026. We know one thing for sure the man was a workaholic from about 2000 onwards so I’m guessing there is a lot of quality stashed away. RIP Mark.
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Post by ♫ ♪ on Feb 5, 2024 22:18:34 GMT -5
Workaholic, maybe , but the man also released what he wanted to release. I don’t really understand this need or want of fans to get more. He has released almost 40 years worth of music for you to enjoy. Sadly, we need to accept he died and it seems more healthy to me to not expect anything new. Perhaps we’d get a surprise, who knows, but I’m not holding my breath.
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Post by jerf on Feb 15, 2024 14:56:14 GMT -5
from Brooklyn Vegan:
Screaming Trees are unearthing some early demos in the form of Strange Things Happening – The Ellensburg Demos 1986-88 for Record Store Day 2024.
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Post by glt on Feb 19, 2024 6:47:41 GMT -5
I'd love to see a box set / repress of all of the live records he sold at his concerts. Also, there were plenty of the live cds that never were never pressed to vinyl as well. I highly doubt we'll see any of those again. I suspect there were some publishing/royalty issues that were skirted around by selling them in small quantities at gigs only. Some may remember some of the early ones being sold online briefly but they quickly disappeared. I remember that those that didn't sell at shows were put up on his website at one point, was a good way to pick up some, as often some only appeared at US shows and some only appeared at Euro/UK shows, so was hard to collect them all. At one of the post-gig signings around 2016/17, a friend asked Lanegan if any of the prior live shows would be re-released/pressed, and he said that they were really only pressed to give him something unique to sell at shows, as merchandise and ticket sales were largely his main routes to make money and keep touring (I think he mentioned that in interviews a couple of times). Whilst the estate may choose different, if that was largely their only purpose, and given that Lanegan's fan base is relatively niche/small, they may not choose to repress them.
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Post by frankblack on Feb 19, 2024 14:44:04 GMT -5
I highly doubt we'll see any of those again. I suspect there were some publishing/royalty issues that were skirted around by selling them in small quantities at gigs only. Some may remember some of the early ones being sold online briefly but they quickly disappeared. I remember that those that didn't sell at shows were put up on his website at one point, was a good way to pick up some, as often some only appeared at US shows and some only appeared at Euro/UK shows, so was hard to collect them all. At one of the post-gig signings around 2016/17, a friend asked Lanegan if any of the prior live shows would be re-released/pressed, and he said that they were really only pressed to give him something unique to sell at shows, as merchandise and ticket sales were largely his main routes to make money and keep touring (I think he mentioned that in interviews a couple of times). Whilst the estate may choose different, if that was largely their only purpose, and given that Lanegan's fan base is relatively niche/small, they may not choose to repress them. His fanbase may be niche but it still allowed him to tour large sections of the globe regularly. I hope we'll see the unreleased material put out over time and perhaps box sets of these live bootlegs. There are labels like Cherry Red who put out cd box sets and vinyl reissues of artists far more obscure whose material was out of print. That is my hope at least.
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