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Post by manintheshadows on Jun 11, 2007 11:16:56 GMT -5
It'll have to wait as far as I'm concerned. Hot Fuzz is out on DVD and that's a priority  |
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Post by Shoesh on Jun 11, 2007 13:44:52 GMT -5
someone sent it to me
me likey
who knows i might even buy it with next month's paycheck
there's a nifty poster that comes with that cd.. I'd like to know what's on it
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Post by dimples... on Jun 11, 2007 15:08:58 GMT -5
I likey what I've heard so far... I think they accomplished what they were going for...
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Post by ispi on Jun 11, 2007 18:33:19 GMT -5
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Post by gr0undzer0 on Jun 12, 2007 10:31:53 GMT -5
hahahaha it appears I am not the only one...... pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/43529-era-vulgarisIt may seem cheap to bring up the departure of Nick Oliveri three years and two albums after he was fired from Queens of the Stone Age, but the more I listen to Era Vulgaris, the more I think his presence is sorely missed. I'm not advocating the guy's return, but the tradeoff between Josh Homme's reserved cool and Olivieri's crazy-go-nuts screaming was one of the group's strengths in their heyday; years later, someone for Homme to play off would still be a welcome addition to the band. Queens of the Stone Age has been mostly Homme's show ever since, and it's been a mixed bag so far. Lullabies to Paralyze was quality, a chance for QOTSA v2.0 to retrench and carve out their own niche, even if those who were less enamored with the album's glowering charms, saw that niche as a rut-- an example of what Oliveri's loss actually meant to the group. If Era Vulgaris is any indication, the group felt the same way: This album tries its best to be everything all at once (often within one track), and in attempting to cover too much ground, the band loses focus and direction. It's not so much that the songs themselves are weak, just that many of the choices made in them are. For instance, "Sick, Sick, Sick" would be better off simply sticking with Homme's motor-mouthed singing and riffing; instead, the song bellyflops into a flat chorus where everyone sings like they're scared of their own voices. (Since the Strokes' Julian Casablancas guests on this song, let's blame him. Why not?) Elsewhere, Homme spreads his falsetto all over "Misfit Love", where it'd be more effective in shorter bursts, while the obnoxious bridge on album closer "Run Pig Run" (it pops up twice!) kills any chance it might've had for worthy inclusion on a future edition of Guitar Hero. (Note to Activision: I am totally cool with requisite QOTSA singles "No One Knows" or "3's and 7's" bringing the rock fury and carpal tunnel.) The most enjoyable moments on Era Vulgaris come when the band treads off the beaten path. One of the album's standout tracks, "Make It Wit Chu", is a straight-forward blues-rock number plucked from the last Desert Sessions disc. And the album's gentler digressions, like the guitar-weeping "Into the Hollow" and the mournful "Suture Up Your Future", reveal Homme has a surprisingly palatable softer side. "Turning on the Screw" and "I'm Designer" aren't exactly groundbreaking departures from the QOTSA's usual fare, but Homme's lyrical bent adds an interesting wrinkle. No one's going to confuse him with Bob Dylan any time this century, but you could put much worse in your mouth than lines like, "My generation's for sale/ Beats a steady job/ How much have you got?" or, "You can't lose it if you never had it/ Disappear man, do some magic." It's at points like these when Era Vulgaris truly comes to life. Unfortunately for listeners, those moments are few and far between, leaving fans to trudge back to older Queens records for the fix they crave. -David Raposa, June 11, 2007 |
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Post by manintheshadows on Jun 12, 2007 13:45:20 GMT -5
Someone lent me the CD today, and it's not as bad as I thought it would be. It's not a fantastic album, but then again QotSA have always been a bit of a "meh" band that I can quite happily listen to but don't really go out of my way to do so and have never really harboured any desire to see them live or anything regardless of who they may or may not have in tow with them. It does feel a bit self-consciously "raw" at times, but that's maybe because the last one felt far too precise to be much fun... Anyhoos, not bad, not great - I'll give it another couple of goes to see if my indifference shifts either way, but Stinky Grooves is going straight back on afterwards |
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Post by LostCause on Jun 12, 2007 19:07:15 GMT -5
I have been going between all of their CDs and feel that there are a few things that have changed (other than the obvious) the last two platters. Their latest seems to be missing a certain level of intensity, reckless abandon, and certainly the sound is not nearly as dense as it once was. I listen to either Rated R or SFTD and it is just a wall of sound with layers of clear background vocals. Now it sounds kind of Queens light with the background really way in the background almost like they are singing and playing well back from the mic. It is not as bad as maybe I first had thought. 3s and 7s is okay, but I was just so attached to the first three cds from the first listen that it is easy for me to not want to listen to the new stuff because Mark or Nick or old Josh sounds so superior it is not a contest to me. I am not a live in the past kind of guy and know that music and bands change/grow, but this is not that type of change IMHO.
Maybe Mark and Nick used to kick Josh in the can of he sang in the falsetto voice too much and since he kicked them out he gets to run wild with it.
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Post by gr0undzer0 on Jun 12, 2007 19:15:56 GMT -5
exactly my point........its not blink 182 YET, but with no one to challenge joshua im sure its going to devolve into a more sugary sweet pop direction, which makes m0ng0 cry. and trust me as M0ntage can attest my favorite band in the world (ulver) has changed styles so dramatically so many times, I CAN DEAL WITH CHANGE but this IMO is not a change for the better its a change to ca$h in
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Post by advent on Jun 12, 2007 22:45:32 GMT -5
I like to listen to Wolf and the Night and then switch over to Blinded by Blood or Your Call or something...change? you bet.
Looking back at Qotsa (the album), Josh was the only singer. And now, he is once again the only singer. Yet now, I find it intolerable. He truly does use too much falsetto and has lost the sleaze of the vocals that we once knew.
Lost Cause states "Their latest seems to be missing a certain level of intensity." That was my first impression/complaint. I think a CD full of 4 minute tracks loaded with repetitive riffs and falsetto gets to be a huge annoyance. The Qotsa album had tracks like "You Can't Quit.." and "I was a Teenage Handmodel" that broke the mold of the repetition--which I liked on it--and made it just that much better. On era I find the only tracks that are that much different are "I wanna make it.." and "I'm Designer." The former I can't stand because of the falsetto--it sounds too much like a shitty EoDM track--and the latter is...well, I just don't like it. So there really isn't anything on this one that holds it up for me...
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Post by manintheshadows on Jun 16, 2007 8:12:36 GMT -5
The more I listen to it, the more I like it. Running Joke is as good as anything else I've heard this year, and it's only really the general "quietness" of the album (doesn't sound quite as pumped-up as perhaps it should be) and a couple of really annoying and pointless midsong timechanges that seem to serve no purpose that's stopping it from being a really good thing indeed.
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Post by on Jun 16, 2007 17:32:19 GMT -5
QOTSA will be on The Henry Rollins show Junn 22nd. It's a N.American show but the wesite will have the performance up after or there's youtube.
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Post by manintheshadows on Jun 16, 2007 18:30:53 GMT -5
Japanese version of the album is out on the 27th, complete with The Fun Machine... (at last!) as a bonus track on top of the two "special edition" bonus tracks that came with all the other releases. Cover art hasn't been released on CDJapan yet - Western cartoon artists & animators almost always draw characters with a thumb and 3 fingers because it's easier to draw, but the Japanese really don't like this because of the Yakuza connection....
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Post by Shoesh on Jun 17, 2007 10:47:04 GMT -5
Japanese version of the album is out on the 27th, complete with The Fun Machine... (at last!) as a bonus track on top of the two "special edition" bonus tracks that came with all the other releases. Cover art hasn't been released on CDJapan yet - Western cartoon artists & animators almost always draw characters with a thumb and 3 fingers because it's easier to draw, but the Japanese really don't like this because of the Yakuza connection.... I know someone who has the cd with the fun machine took a shit and died. He'd never heard of the song and the legend surrounding it! I had to enlighten him.. Anyfuck, they're selling those copies at my local yokal record store. |
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Post by advent on Jun 17, 2007 20:26:45 GMT -5
Where'd the Fun Machine come from anyways?
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Post by ispi on Jun 17, 2007 21:03:41 GMT -5
I always assumed it was a reference to Josh deciding he couldn't deal with Nick anymore.... and that they came up with the actual song long after they came up with the title.
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Post by Shoesh on Jun 18, 2007 5:04:29 GMT -5
There was an actual machine they used to make funny noises. Hence the name The Fun Machine. They were working on this song when it died on them..
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Post by advent on Jun 18, 2007 15:12:27 GMT -5
No....they said they lost the tapes right? Well, did they find them or something?
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Post by gr0undzer0 on Jun 18, 2007 15:29:33 GMT -5
No....they said they lost the tapes right? Well, did they find them or something? yep they had a BADASS album written then they lost the tapes so they subcontracted the re-writing and recording to blink-182 with josh overdubbing the vocals and the rest is well........er vulgra crap0la history |
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Post by Dr Carruthers on Jun 18, 2007 16:41:55 GMT -5
I don't like when people compare Kyuss and QOTSA. Those are two different bands, who happen to share a guitarist. I really like the way Josh is taking the Queens musically. Each of the five albums is different and that's something most bands (contemporary or old) are not capable of.
Another thing I hate is people ranting about Josh firing Nick. Seriously, Nick didn't die or anything. Mondo has a new album out, he keeps giving concerts, you cn go and buy and listen and see him. They couldn't get along with Josh anymore.
(you can't keep two fuckers like Josh and Nick for too long together. They survived for record time...)
And I like Era Vulgairs pretty much. I'm Designer, Misfit Love, Run Pig Run, River in the Road... Great songs.
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Post by gr0undzer0 on Jun 19, 2007 22:44:31 GMT -5
you obviously dont read very well, no one has compared kyuss to QOTSA and I could give a shit about josh firing nick.....really I dont, but the OBVIOUS thing here in my opinion is that nick was the guy that kept things r0kin and raw and not this over processed boring robo shite we hear today
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Post by on Jun 20, 2007 4:16:31 GMT -5
you obviously dont read very well, no one has compared kyuss to QOTSA and I could give a shit about josh firing nick.....really I dont, but the OBVIOUS thing here in my opinion is that nick was the guy that kept things r0kin and raw and not this over processed boring robo shite we hear today That's your opinion, I really don't agree with it. I think you're giving Nick a little too much credit and I like the "changes" or whatever you want to call it...I guess I like crap...or maybe I don't expect bands to put out the same albums all the time. Music is subjective anyway, and you either like it or you don't. |
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Post by advent on Jun 20, 2007 14:57:51 GMT -5
I don't entirely agree with that. You can appreciate elements of music even if you don't like it.
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Post by gr0undzer0 on Jun 20, 2007 16:06:17 GMT -5
That's your opinion, I really don't agree with it. I think you're giving Nick a little too much credit and I like the "changes" or whatever you want to call it...I guess I like crap...or maybe I don't expect bands to put out the same albums all the time. Music is subjective anyway, and you either like it or you don't. its a logical deduction based on what the music was like when nick was apart of the songwriting process dovetailed with what kind of music nick puts out on his own or as apart of another group AND the present output of QOTSA like it or not, if you like it thats super and honestly I still like some aspects of it but overall its not for me anymore, I find it boring, robotic and lifeless. And as Montage said its not black and white, I hate certain aspects of the songs my favorite bands do but its not enough to outweigh the good points imo of course......like mark and his w0000 and sideways in reverse....... horrible song GREAT album !!! |
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Post by on Jun 20, 2007 16:40:01 GMT -5
I don't really feel I need to argue this point but, I need to point out a few things. I did say music was subjective also, ofcourse it's not all black and white. However I noticed on the 2nd page of this thread that montage said he "didn't like it at all". So what it is it now, you can appreciate some elements on the album or you don't like it at all? Another thing is you make it sound like this album is like somekind of downfall and the band is on somekind of decline without Nick's impute. Tha's subjective too! Atleast we can all agree that Nick isn't in the band anymore and the people who are....are different and so the sound is different.
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Post by manintheshadows on Jun 20, 2007 16:45:22 GMT -5
I did say music was subjective also, ofcourse it's not all black and white. It is if you're a goth |
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