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Post by tinus on Aug 26, 2008 8:53:42 GMT -5
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Post by skeletal2 on Aug 26, 2008 11:44:47 GMT -5
Shouldn't be too difficult since Dylan sucks. Most overrated "musician" in any genre, period. And don't give me that "great songwriter" crap. Crap it is, Dylan has always been crap. |
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Post by ShotByTheBlues on Aug 26, 2008 17:36:49 GMT -5
I like Dylan, but I like Lanegans version of that song a lot more then the original, just the structuring of the song beats Bob's version in my opinion.
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Post by Fields at Midnight on Aug 26, 2008 18:23:22 GMT -5
Lanegan's version IMHO
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Post by wheels132 on Aug 26, 2008 19:54:16 GMT -5
I dig Lanegan's version a lot more. I respect Dylan as a songwriter. Lanegan's version is just tops though....is anyone really surprised?!
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Post by bschafer714 on Aug 26, 2008 20:13:04 GMT -5
You'd be hard-pressed to find many songwriters who don't give Dylan mad props. He is easily among the best. This is a great song and a great performance.
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Post by bschafer714 on Aug 26, 2008 20:14:31 GMT -5
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Post by LostCause on Aug 26, 2008 22:33:42 GMT -5
I would have to agree. Mark did a great version of the song and the Dylan is bad assed (his singing is pretty legible). It looks like there are some more songs from the same concert (with the turban thing).
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Post by panouououls on Aug 27, 2008 6:12:12 GMT -5
Dylan is not only a great lyricist he is also a great musician and he doesnt have to prove anything to anyone.I guess Mark likes Dylan thats why he sung that song
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Post by Stephanie on Aug 27, 2008 9:48:47 GMT -5
It's a remarkable song. I like both Dylan's version and Mark's, though of course I prefer Mark's. His voice suits that particular song so well. Very haunting. The lyrics to me evoke fate, the crossroads of death and desire... of course, prime material for Mr. Lanegan.
I see a similarity in these lines from "Man in the Long Black Coat":
Preacher was a talkin', there's a sermon he gave,
He said every man's conscience is vile and depraved,
You cannot depend on it to be your guide
When it's you who must keep it satisfied.
It ain't easy to swallow, it sticks in the throat,
She gave her heart to the man
In the long black coat.
There are no mistakes in life, some people say
It is true sometimes you can see it that way.
But people don't live or die, people just float.
She went with the man
In the long black coat.
And these lines from "Idle Hands":
My idle hands-
There's nothing I can do
But be the Devil's plaything, baby
And know that I've been used
And different people have different tastes, but I can't fathom someone not at least respecting Dylan as a songwriter. The way he has with words... that he can tell a rich and complex story, while also engaging in word play, pulling off rhymes and metrical tricks and yet always with it coming across unforced... it continually blows me away.
I mean, I sat with the lyrics to this song for some time, there's a lot going on here.
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Post by felixthecat on Aug 27, 2008 11:20:21 GMT -5
I don't think anyone can deny Dylan is an astonishing songwriter, one of the few truly iconic ones of our time. However, he is one of those few singer songwriters whose songs *almost* always sound better sung by someone else. ;D
So, it comes as no suprise for me to tell you I prefer Lanegans version.
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Post by nanna on Aug 27, 2008 12:21:49 GMT -5
Lanegan sounds like Johnny Cash in this. I've noticed some reseblance before but this one is so Cash. Which is not a bad thing at all.
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Post by panouououls on Aug 27, 2008 12:39:09 GMT -5
Nobody sings Dylan like Dylan.
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Post by Stephanie on Aug 27, 2008 13:04:16 GMT -5
I like Dylan's voice, and the way he sings his own songs. There's that wry quality to his voice that you just can't duplicate, or get with 'prettier' versions of his songs, like he knows some deep cosmic secret, that I find very engaging. It's very similar to what I (and I assume many others) vibe off of in Mark's voice, a certain knowing spiritual quality that goes beyond the aesthetics of that voice.
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Post by ShotByTheBlues on Aug 27, 2008 14:42:27 GMT -5
The song I think Dylan's voice sounds the best, or at least the most comfortable is the Nashville Skyline album, Lay Lady Lay etc.
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Post by manintheshadows on Aug 27, 2008 18:25:27 GMT -5
It's just that bloody harmonica that annoys me. It sounds like someone's just left it sat there on top of a respirator.
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Post by m on Aug 28, 2008 9:32:02 GMT -5
in response to the comments about bob dylan... he's a fantastic lyricist and a great storyteller. he even made up a name and a new life story for a while. such incredible wit and biting sarcasm in his work, coupled with a delicate, romantic touch and a real sense of place and history and.... y'know. he's great. you can smell the atmosphere in the room with some of his songs. you are there. his singing voice... at times sublime, but more often horrific in the last 25yrs. but always distinctive and recognisable - and that is what sells records. think of how cheesy it sounds when a million buskers sing his early 60's protest songs... and then listen to the originals. you've got the same ingredients... a guy with a guitar, a non-traditional singing voice and a wheezing harmonica... playing live. but dylan makes them twitch and bite with nuance and feeling in the way that only a passionate, aware, intelligent young man can do. not yet blinded by the impossibilities, just interested in the ideal and voicing those ideas. it's like that recording of Cobain playing Opinion. it's just blindingly... real. lord, he's bob dylan for fuck's sake. it's like saying you don't like or respect any of shakespeare's work or influence on the world of writing.... or... dare i say it? the beatles. shhhhhhhhh...  |
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Post by Stephanie on Aug 28, 2008 9:57:08 GMT -5
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Post by skeletal2 on Sept 8, 2008 12:17:55 GMT -5
Dylan blows.
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Post by ShotByTheBlues on Sept 8, 2008 12:26:51 GMT -5
You blow, and im next in line for your services.
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