araby
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Post by araby on Feb 16, 2011 6:33:42 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the show again last night, & thought the band sounded excellent. It certainly appeared to be Mark's decision to cut Wedding Dress from the set for whatever reason. I always thought Out of Nowhere would be a fitting closer to these shows & more in keeping perhaps with the rest of the set.
The one disappointment for me was the lack of any merchandise. Like a lot of other fans I turned up with a pocketful of cash hoping to buy the most recent live CDs, but a great night nonetheless.
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Post by caitlin on Feb 16, 2011 19:02:35 GMT -5
No Wedding Dress at Utrecht tonight either. isobel didn't speak to the audience at all,Lanegan one sentence although a fair number of smiles to each other. No Place to Fall and Backburner were terriific. lanegan and the band were as consistently excellent as always,don't want to unfair to Isobel she just seemda bit tired. The support, Woody & Paul ( are they a local band?) were great too. tivoli's sound man deserves sacking, lots of feedback from the mikes.
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kiek
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Post by kiek on Feb 16, 2011 19:43:36 GMT -5
Spotted Bryan and David Devendorf of The National in the venue after the concert tonight, looking at the equipment of the band.......
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jules
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Post by jules on Feb 17, 2011 12:19:16 GMT -5
went to the London gig to see Mark and Isobel for the 5th or 6th time now and was very underwhelmed, yes Mark's voice is amazing as usual but I have to admit im not really in love all of Isobel's songs, Best song was No place to Fall which she didnt write...also because they both didnt really communicate at all with the audience I left feeling subdued not elated as I usually do after a great gig, just a little 'thanks for coming' would have been much appreciated. And no Union Chapel cd, gutted about that. Really need to see Mark doing something new now. I actually really loved Sea of Bees, her voice was amazing and at least had some guts to it unlike Isobels. She was a bit bonkers but they're the best kind of people.
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Post by glt on Feb 17, 2011 16:45:25 GMT -5
With regards to the Shepherd's Bush gig I too felt slightly underwhelmed by it but am not quite sure why (possibly spoilt by being able to see both the Union Chapel and Barbican gigs last year, which were both incredible).
I was in the standing section at Shepherd's Bush and though I usually like standing, I think that the Campbell/Lanegan collaborations do lend themselves more to a seated venue.
Having seen Mark and Isobel a few times now I also feel that a lot of the time Isobel's mic level isn't quite right (Barbican is the nearest I've heard to it being spot-on) and her voice either gets a little lost, or the setting is so high that her voice figures more prominently in the song than you'd like it to.
Also, I think, as has been mentioned, the acoustics are not as good in that venue as in some of the others Mark has played in when previously in the UK and I agree with Jules that I just didn't get the same excited feeling/buzz when the concert had ended when I usually see a Mark Lanegan/Campbell/Lanegan concertt.
That's not to say it wasn't a very good and enjoyable concert. It's always a pleasure hearing Mark sing live and he is in truly fantastic voice at the moment. Hearing him sing 'No Place To Fall' was excellent and probably the highlight for me and 'Backburner' and 'Revolver' always sound excellent live.
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Post by caitlin on Feb 17, 2011 17:50:56 GMT -5
^^ That's sort of my feelings about the Utrecht show, there wasn't the same buzz as The Barbican, but that may just be because it was the 4th time I've seen them since Hawk was realeased .No Place to Fall was just wonderful and Backburner is a force of nature. if Laneagn were commercially minded a new solo album late 2011/early 2012 would be a wise move.
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Post by soonforgotten2 on Feb 18, 2011 7:18:26 GMT -5
I've gotta say that Backburner really hasn't done it for me on these recent tours. I don't know how to explain it other than it seems to have been slowed down so that it includes an extra beat. So Mark ends up holding his verses longer and it just doesn't sound as smooth or "right" to me. It struck me at the Barbican gig and it was at SheBu that I was able to figure out why it sounded so different. I'm quite glad they went back to the full-on performance of "Come On Over". That acoustic version at the Barbican really did not do it for me at all.
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Post by caitlin on Feb 18, 2011 12:05:22 GMT -5
really! i thought Backburner at the Barbican was practically x-rated.
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Post by analuisa on Feb 18, 2011 13:08:35 GMT -5
I missed Wedding Dress at Bush Empire on Tuesday. But...on the other hand..."The Circus is Leaving Town" was such a glorious special moment of the evening. I simply couldn´t take my eyes off Lanegan while he was singing this incredible song in a totally touching way. His voice was 100% clean and clear that evening. I think after two (or three?) years away from cigarettes, now his voice is finally free from the smoking effects. He doesn´t cough anymore between songs.
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Post by evilelvis on Feb 18, 2011 15:21:46 GMT -5
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Post by beyondthepale on Feb 18, 2011 17:59:56 GMT -5
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Post by Grumpella on Feb 18, 2011 19:58:53 GMT -5
Ya gotta love the reviewers. Throughout Mark's entire performing career, he's never been one to chat with the audience. The most interaction he's been noted for is yelling "Fuck you!" and/or getting into a fight with someone who's pissed him off. Perhaps these reviewers are pining for that younger, under the influence version of Mark? Are they looking for Isobel to start bumping and grinding the mic stand and wiggling her ass at Mark? Who I suppose is then to hump her while stripping off his shirt? While eight scantily clad backing dancers shimmy onto stage? All under a massive light display with smoke and explosions? This ain't a fuckin' Britney Spears show!
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Post by Grumpella on Feb 18, 2011 22:55:11 GMT -5
I've gone and done something that should probably get me a severe spanking. I wrote an obnoxious, psuedo-intellectual essay earlier today questioning an issue that's arisen in many of the reviews of Isobel's & Mark's shows. Instead of posting that, I made a horrible picture based on what it seems those silly reviewers are expecting and not getting. Nothing remotely intellectual about it, although it's still quite obnoxious. I hope ya'll will find it funny. (link removed to avoid misunderstandings)
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Post by chapeuzinho on Feb 19, 2011 9:02:22 GMT -5
I've gone and done something that should probably get me a severe spanking. I wrote an obnoxious, psuedo-intellectual essay earlier today questioning an issue that's arisen in many of the reviews of Isobel's & Mark's shows. Instead of posting that, I made a horrible picture based on what it seems those silly reviewers are expecting and not getting. Nothing remotely intellectual about it, although it's still quite obnoxious. I hope ya'll will find it funny. www.flickr.com/photos/eyesofgreen/5457719426/Hilarious. Perfect choice of facial expressions. In my alternative world I'd definitely have tickets to that show...
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Post by barriers on Feb 19, 2011 11:37:21 GMT -5
he he
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Post by caitlin on Feb 19, 2011 20:15:03 GMT -5
The Financial Times review isn't completely unfair and at least appreaciated the music.
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Post by Grumpella on Feb 19, 2011 20:30:00 GMT -5
Hilarious. Perfect choice of facial expressions. In my alternative world I'd definitely have tickets to that show... Thanks. Come to think of it, I'd want to witness that spectacle at least once, too.
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Post by Grumpella on Feb 19, 2011 20:33:19 GMT -5
The Financial Times review isn't completely unfair and at least appreaciated the music. True, the reviewer did appreciate the music. What about it did you think wasn't "completely unfair?" I only ask because I'm wondering if you're referring to the thing I've seen crop up in all of the reviews that's been growing on me as a source of curiosity. I may end up posting that dang essay after all!
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Post by calm ocean on Feb 19, 2011 20:38:56 GMT -5
okay, it's a cute picture. now delete that post and delete that picture before it gets this place shut down.
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Post by Grumpella on Feb 19, 2011 20:46:13 GMT -5
Dear FORUM MODERATORS : If my post and picture in any way jeopardize this forum, please tell me and I will gladly delete my post and even remove the picture from my personal Flickr account. It's in my nature to disrespect all authorit-I but I love this forum and you guys and will meekly obey. -Grumpella
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Post by calm ocean on Feb 19, 2011 20:50:14 GMT -5
bobbleheads with pink elephants = okay what you just posted = not okay
its a very thin line! sorry, forget i said any of that. not trying to tell anyone what to do or police the board, just trying to be helpful. apparently i wasn't.
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Post by raeni on Feb 21, 2011 11:24:45 GMT -5
hmmm - anything like that photo shopped picture is a tough call. I understand the point you're trying to make, but photo-shopping people is always questionable. It would be an extremely rare thing for anyone to tell me to 'take something down' - but is that something you'd want them to see, if they didn't read the reason behind it?
As far as the Shepherd's Bush reviewers are concerned, it actually DOES sound like something was off at that show. Everyone on here has commented extensively about the interaction between Mark and Isobel, and about how everyone is always smiling and enjoying themselves.
Apparently at this show, based on what people from this forum have said, that wasn't the case. It sounds like Isobel was sick?
I hope things are better now.
Some nice photos have been sent in from Feb - start sending some reviews!
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Post by caitlin on Feb 21, 2011 11:29:33 GMT -5
The Financial Times review isn't completely unfair and at least appreaciated the music. True, the reviewer did appreciate the music. What about it did you think wasn't "completely unfair?" I only ask because I'm wondering if you're referring to the thing I've seen crop up in all of the reviews that's been growing on me as a source of curiosity. I may end up posting that dang essay after all! # The bit about wondering if they'd had a fight. I did wonder that myself the first time I ever saw them, definitely not at Glasgow last year, The Barbican and Cafe de la Danse and to be honest , initially at Tivoli Utrecht on Wednesday.
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Post by caitlin on Feb 21, 2011 11:39:36 GMT -5
True, the reviewer did appreciate the music. What about it did you think wasn't "completely unfair?" I only ask because I'm wondering if you're referring to the thing I've seen crop up in all of the reviews that's been growing on me as a source of curiosity. I may end up posting that dang essay after all! # The bit about wondering if they'd had a fight. I did wonder that myself the first time I ever saw them, definitely not at Glasgow last year, The Barbican and Cafe de la Danse but to be honest , initially at Tivoli Utrecht on Wednesday.
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Post by Grumpella on Feb 21, 2011 11:42:15 GMT -5
Raeni - anything taken out of context can lead to a whole world of misunderstandings and misconceptions. I wouldn't want that pic to be misconstrued by either Mark or Isobel - although I do think, in context, they'd find it amusing and see the point I was making. I'll go ahead and doctor up my posts and remove the link. I would've done a silly stick figure picture instead of the photoshop job but I draw so badly I couldn't pull it off. I'll stick to Bobblehead Masterpiece Theatre for now.
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