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Post by SheBangsTheTrums on Feb 1, 2023 2:17:56 GMT -5
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Post by spirou13 on Feb 1, 2023 8:16:12 GMT -5
Thanks a lot for this post! Very expensive indeed. But I've been waiting for this for so long!!!Thanks!
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Post by calm ocean on Feb 1, 2023 10:45:50 GMT -5
saw this on FB, glad someone posted it here. FYI the tracklist for the records is in the second image (i overlooked this last night, so i thought others might have missed this as well)
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anyone happen to have a promo code?
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Post by oneone2 on Feb 1, 2023 14:08:46 GMT -5
Well, there goes $200. UK site only so shipping to the states was over $40 for the three discs. As far as as promo codes go, I signed up for the Rough Trade newsletter promising 10% off but haven't received it. Panicked and pulled the trigger because FOMO (fear of missing out). Maybe I should order another Knuckles. That track listing is a winner and I've been drooling over it since it popped up on Discogs a while back. Being a Lanegan fan is a demanding pursuit but equally rewarding.
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Post by cameron4321 on Feb 1, 2023 16:41:55 GMT -5
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Post by goldrush on Feb 1, 2023 16:46:30 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this. I only picked up Knuckles and Stone Pony, as much as I want Mescalito I couldn't justify the price of all 3
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Post by qotsalive on Feb 1, 2023 17:23:35 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this. I only picked up Knuckles and Stone Pony, as much as I want Mescalito I couldn't justify the price of all 3 Same here, but the Mescalito one was already sold out. Anyways, pre ordered the other two new ones (Mescalito EP is not really new). Seems that there is only one of the editions available. Good luck! |
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Post by silverjetz on Feb 1, 2023 18:19:15 GMT -5
Thx for the heads up - nice to see these released, but those vinyl prices are offensive to say the least, wow...
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Post by nilbymouth on Feb 1, 2023 18:29:05 GMT -5
Thx for the heads up - nice to see these released, but those vinyl prices are offensive to say the least, wow... Offensive is one way to put it - it's pretty galling, but given that two of the three are already sold out, it seems they understand supply/demand. I hope this isn't the way forward for future releases - tiny batch at rude prices. I've passed, sadly. |
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Post by rimb on Feb 1, 2023 20:13:25 GMT -5
What a shitty way to release this stuff.
Hope it's not a sign of things to come.
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Post by goldrush on Feb 1, 2023 23:58:29 GMT -5
The prices are insane. Given that the release date is so close to the 1 year anniversary of Mark’s passing it looks even worse.
Was the Stone Pony show ever mentioned before? I know there has been some discussion about Knuckles in the past.
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Post by SheBangsTheTrums on Feb 2, 2023 0:50:35 GMT -5
Given the expensive price I’m hoping most of the funds are going to SB. Shipping has always been shit but ya gotta do what ya gotta do
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Post by silverjetz on Feb 2, 2023 10:20:45 GMT -5
I didn't actually make the connection of the release date as it coincides with his passing, but yeah, that looks terrible. What were these people thinking - the "Gravedigger's Song" indeed... I'd understand if there were family / children involved, but this just seems like such a blatant cash grab. Thought about this again last night & cannot for a second believe that this is how Mark would want his last music shared with the fans - save for the fact that they're being sold @ a reputable indie like Rough Trade. His live CDd's were always fairly priced @ the shows & this is just so out of step with that "indie" mentality / his background..
Had heard about Knuckles before, but Jersey seems to be a new one, to me at least..
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Post by calm ocean on Feb 2, 2023 11:49:31 GMT -5
Ultimately, I decided to pass on buying these. Returned to the webstore a few times adding them to my basket, then backed out each time. Just too much.
I truly appreciate the board members who bought extra copies of these live recordings at shows over the years and shipped them out to me and others.
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Post by ken on Feb 2, 2023 14:22:49 GMT -5
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Post by SheBangsTheTrums on Feb 2, 2023 18:23:13 GMT -5
‘We are very happy to have been asked by the Mark Lanegan estate to be the exclusive outlet for these live releases. For many years Mark pressed live recordings to be sold on his Merch tables at shows. These recordings were pressed by him for the 2020 tour that had to be cancelled due to covid lockdowns in Europe and have sat in his storage since then.’ I think Shelley &/or manager have been involved. I didn't actually make the connection of the release date as it coincides with his passing, but yeah, that looks terrible. What were these people thinking - the "Gravedigger's Song" indeed... I'd understand if there were family / children involved, but this just seems like such a blatant cash grab. Thought about this again last night & cannot for a second believe that this is how Mark would want his last music shared with the fans - save for the fact that they're being sold @ a reputable indie like Rough Trade. His live CDd's were always fairly priced @ the shows & this is just so out of step with that "indie" mentality / his background.. Had heard about Knuckles before, but Jersey seems to be a new one, to me at least.. |
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Post by rimb on Feb 2, 2023 22:42:55 GMT -5
Yeah there was absolutely no reason for Rough Trade to have a 3 per customer limit. These would have sold easily with a 1 per customer limit. |
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Post by glt on Feb 3, 2023 12:13:33 GMT -5
I have to admit, I think there should have been a one per customer limit. Seeing them on ebay for that price is soul destroying, but it has happened with pretty much all of the other live releases to an extent too. Not sure how they can stop that (though a one per customer limit would have curtailed it). That said, I do know of someone who purchased two of each, one for themselves and one for a friend of theirs who wouldn't have had the cash to buy them until later this month (and therefore would have not had the chance), so I guess it has advantages for some genuine fans too.
However, while it is a lot of money for a vinyl (that is something that can't be argued with), it is probably around what they would have cost on a tour date these days. At the final few shows on the 2019 UK tour, CDs were going for £20, and the live/bootleg vinyls were £40.
With rising costs of just about everything these days, I can imagine that this price wouldn't be far off of what they would have sold for at a show. Hopefully Shelley/the Lanegan estate get the same sort of proceeds from them as they would have at a show.
Rough Trade East is only just down the road from where I work. I was speaking to one of the staff in there about them when collecting Mescalito, and they said they believe that the release was approved by Shelley (he just said 'his wife') and had been sitting in storage in Belgium, with the arrangement with Rough Trade being arranged since November/December last year. I didn't even think about the date being so close to the anniversary to mention that to him.
I don't think that any future official releases (for example a studio album/outtakes album if there happened to have been anything completed) would be this pricey and more like a usual CD/vinyl price, but think this was designed to be sold at a similar price-point to what they were at the shows. Lanegan always used to say that the merch sold at shows, along with the ticket sales was his main source of income pretty much, especially in recent years with more of the albums being streamed, so hopefully these releases prove that way too for Shelley and his estate.
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Post by ken on Feb 3, 2023 13:59:47 GMT -5
I would have bought these (even though I think the prices somewhat steep), but I have no way of playing vinyl. Finally got round to offloading my hundreds of vinyl albums/singles during the first lockdown. Anyway, on the assumption that these sell out - so no one is losing - I would be v grateful to anyone for a digital copy of the two MLB discs.
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Post by silverjetz on Feb 3, 2023 14:48:17 GMT -5
A BIG shout-out to ALL the very kind & generous forum members here who have assisted in helping me secure copies of Mark's official live recordings over the yrs - some great peeps indeed! On the note of "inflation" as an excuse for the price-gouging - by the clerk's own admission, these have been warehoused for the last cpl of yrs - ie they were produced long before the recent rise in inflation. Just saying is all  |
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Post by inthefade on Feb 4, 2023 9:13:05 GMT -5
This pisses me off. I just found out about these releases and they're sold out already. Forget about how overpriced they are. I would have paid it. Make enough for everyone who wants one. Fuck.
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Post by glt on Feb 4, 2023 15:42:26 GMT -5
A BIG shout-out to ALL the very kind & generous forum members here who have assisted in helping me secure copies of Mark's official live recordings over the yrs - some great peeps indeed! On the note of "inflation" as an excuse for the price-gouging - by the clerk's own admission, these have been warehoused for the last cpl of yrs - ie they were produced long before the recent rise in inflation. Just saying is all It's all a bit of a moot point now as they are sold anyhow but just because they were produced before prices have risen the fees that would likely have been charged by a venue they would have been sold at D their cut (with the 2020 tour cancelled they probably would have been sold at the dates Mark was looking to do in 2022) or indeed any cut that Rough Trade have taken this year will be taken in proportion to the times they are being sold. As a comparison, if a movie was finished production five years ago but was delayed being released for until now, the tickets at the cinema wouldn't be at 2018 prices for it. I just am not sure it's fair to call Rough Trade's prices (probably agreed by the estate) as gouging when at Lanegan's own shows the prices of vinyl jumped from about £30 to £40 between 2017 and 2019 (at least at UK shows). I just feel they've probably been priced so that the estate and whomever receives the proceeds of the sale receive the same percentage that Lanegan would have done were they sold at the shows. I do however detest all those that have bought them up and are now selling them for extortionate prices on ebay and Discogs. I saw Mescalito going for £200 earlier on Discogs. Sad for those that would genuinely have wanted them when that happens. |
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Post by revelator on Feb 5, 2023 6:03:21 GMT -5
Indeed very expensive...
If ever available digitally, I'd be really interested!!
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Post by landofsunshine on Feb 5, 2023 11:18:35 GMT -5
I missed these entirely until now but it's very disappointing to see this sort of price-gouging. Hopefully digital copies of Knuckles and Stone Pony surface at some point.
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Post by cameron4321 on Feb 5, 2023 12:13:35 GMT -5
I do not see this as price gouging at all. Mark sold vinyl for 40 euros a piece at his concerts during the last tour.
We should just be thankful that these actually saw the light of day and hope that the funds are all going to Shelly. It's just so sad and I'm going to have a hard time listening to these new live shows, but god damn that band with Aldo on keys and Jeff on guitar was hot shit, so I'd gladly pay out the nose for any live shows.
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