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Post by manintheshadows on Feb 14, 2008 7:03:46 GMT -5
Just to keep them all in one place... To get the ball rolling, here's one from Artrocker. I think the reviewer likes it, but as there's no qualifier on the rating it's hard to tell if what the score actually is
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Post by domiknock on Feb 14, 2008 9:13:19 GMT -5
i think its 4 out of 5. in my opinion, thought its not released yet, it'll be 6/5
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Post by on Feb 14, 2008 11:05:13 GMT -5
Just to keep them all in one place... To get the ball rolling, here's one from Artrocker. I think the reviewer likes it, but as there's no qualifier on the rating it's hard to tell if what the score actually is im praying that the reviewer's middle name is 'And'.
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Post by Fields at Midnight on Feb 14, 2008 11:07:47 GMT -5
in my opinion, though its not released yet, it'll be 6/5 at least.
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Post by e on Feb 14, 2008 11:22:47 GMT -5
what they mean with the line "hear the rapture coming" ?
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Post by manintheshadows on Feb 14, 2008 11:46:37 GMT -5
More religious stuff - the Rapture is when the righteous (both of them) are bodily transported to heaven while the rest of us have hang around to witness the final battle between good & evil. It's basically the end of the world.
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Post by manintheshadows on Feb 17, 2008 5:43:57 GMT -5
Glowing review from the BBC here.
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Post by manintheshadows on Feb 17, 2008 5:46:31 GMT -5
Just to keep them all in one place... To get the ball rolling, here's one from Artrocker. I think the reviewer likes it, but as there's no qualifier on the rating it's hard to tell if what the score actually is im praying that the reviewer's middle name is 'And'. And such lovely site design as well - everything about it reminds me of Sugar Ape out of Nathan Barley...
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Post by on Feb 17, 2008 7:11:19 GMT -5
Glowing review from the BBC here. indeed it is. and may i quickly quote it..? hmm, im sure someone else has mentioned that on this forum..............?
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Post by Stephanie on Feb 17, 2008 11:10:08 GMT -5
Glowing review from the BBC here. To follow in mokkly's lead, I'm going to quote from it: I feel like pigeonholing the Gutter Twins material as "alt rock," while understandable, is overly limiting. You can see the review author struggling with applying the label to the music a bit. When I think of the Gutter Twins stuff, I think of Mark's love of blues and Greg's love of soul music coming together and being filtered through the rock format. Sure, the guitars immediately make one think, "rock 'n' roll," but I think the overall "vibe" of the music carries off more of the blues and soul influences, the "rawness," "soulful"-ness, "passion," etc. I feel like lumping the Gutter Twins in with "alt rock" bands completely misses a lot of the influences and qualities of the music these guys are making together.
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Post by LostCause on Feb 18, 2008 12:44:42 GMT -5
Glowing review from the BBC here. indeed it is. and may i quickly quote it..? hmm, im sure someone else has mentioned that on this forum..............? I think that he is talking about one part of one song not as a whole. The lead guitar solo in I was in Love with you is totally Dear Prudence esque. The first moment that I heard the guitar sound I knew what he was referring to. Very good song and good song to "borrow" from.
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Post by on Feb 18, 2008 13:07:13 GMT -5
indeed it is. and may i quickly quote it..? hmm, im sure someone else has mentioned that on this forum..............? I think that he is talking about one part of one song not as a whole. The lead guitar solo in I was in Love with you is totally Dear Prudence esque. The first moment that I heard the guitar sound I knew what he was referring to. Very good song and good song to "borrow" from. absolutely. i know what the reviewer is talking about (sorry if i didnt make that clear). what i was getting at is this... i find it funny that ive been noting the Beatles comparisons for the last month and being shouted down and told that the Beatles are crap by people who clearly have no understanding or appreciation of popular music and Greg Dulli's musical reference points.
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Post by on Feb 18, 2008 13:08:46 GMT -5
i think i could make an 15minute MP3 montage of things Dulli has ripped off.. sorry, 'borrowed', from other songs and writers..
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Post by MR GUMBY on Feb 18, 2008 16:54:52 GMT -5
Glowing review from the BBC here. indeed it is. and may i quickly quote it..? hmm, im sure someone else has mentioned that on this forum..............? nice use of the smileys you fuck
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Post by on Feb 18, 2008 17:08:46 GMT -5
you love it, fucknut.
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Post by manintheshadows on Feb 19, 2008 8:27:36 GMT -5
The lead guitar solo in I was in Love with you is totally Dear Prudence esque. The first moment that I heard the guitar sound I knew what he was referring to. Very good song and good song to "borrow" from. This is the truest thing posted on this board. Ever. Anyway - more niceness here courtesty of ALARM magazine.
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Post by e on Feb 19, 2008 9:26:22 GMT -5
In most of the songs mark sings too soft imho....
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Post by on Feb 19, 2008 11:59:09 GMT -5
In most of the songs mark sings too soft imho.... im really surprised by that. most opinions seem to be that Lanegan is getting back to the delicate soulfulness of pre-QOTSA solo stuff.. i adore it when he sings softly, with that beautiful crooning sound - it takes me back to the best stuff on Winding Sheet and Whiskey For The Holy Ghost.. but it's a more mature, more confident singing style than that. the vocal on Seven Stories... absolutely sublime. his best vocal take in years. yearning, soulful. perfection.
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Post by e on Feb 19, 2008 12:05:30 GMT -5
his vocals in most of the songs reminds me more of I'll take care of you album.....there's nothing wrong but i've always thought about the "gutter twins" sound in a different way, something raw like "when your number isn't up",you know what i mean ? idle hands and the stations have the sound that i've always imagined
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Post by wheels132 on Feb 19, 2008 12:06:53 GMT -5
In most of the songs mark sings too soft imho.... im really surprised by that. most opinions seem to be that Lanegan is getting back to the delicate soulfulness of pre-QOTSA solo stuff.. i adore it when he sings softly, with that beautiful crooning sound - it takes me back to the best stuff on Winding Sheet and Whiskey For The Holy Ghost.. but it's a more mature, more confident singing style than that. the vocal on Seven Stories... absolutely sublime. his best vocal take in years. yearning, soulful. perfection. Definitely. The vocals on Seven Stories (Who Will Lead Us? as well) are some of his best in years. It reminded me a lot of Resurrection Song (without the darkness) or House a Home or Shiloh Town to name a few. I think it further illustrates how versatile he is and always has been....again, I hope he's planning on another solo album....
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Post by on Feb 19, 2008 12:20:17 GMT -5
in reply to 'e' (wheels got a reply in quicker than i could type!)
hmm.. interesting. i think this far down the line in his career, it's interesting to see fans' expectations change.
there are the pre-Sweet Oblivion era Trees fans who like the indie-rock/psychedelic stuff...
the post-Sweet Oblivion fans who like the rock stuff and prefer the 1990's solo career.. people who were maybe into Nirvana etc... (this is my starting point on the 'Trees/Lanegan)
then you see new people arriving who are QOTSA fans who bought Bubblegum, and maybe dont like the more acoustic stuff or the softer stuff.. whereas for people like me, Bubblegum was a huge departure and not representative of what (at the time) i thought a Mark Lanegan album should sound like...
and countless other fans who appear through the years, from different directions, because of different projects etc etc...
it's interesting.
personally, im basically a fan of all Lanegan's stuff (to some degree) EXCEPT that dreadful Isobel Campbell thing. im praying the new one is better.
in summary, i love his vocals on Saturnalia... he's spitting out miserable venom on All Misery, more rocking on Idle Hands, got a bit of late 'Trees style on Bete Noire.. the quiet, dignified beauty of Seven Stories and Who Will Lead Us.. The Stations is depth and gravitas.
all his vocals are fucking impeccable on this album. varied, each a perfect example of what he can do. and it makes me hate that first Isobel Campbell thing even more than i did, because he should be busy doing something this good.
i... just.. have... no idea why they put Each To Each on the album.
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Post by e on Feb 19, 2008 12:30:35 GMT -5
i'll probably change opinion when i'll listen to the CD instead of these mp3s.....but for example i can tell you that i LOVE all his vocals on the soulsavers album,i find that work more DARK and in some way "raw". But i'm sure i will love this album...
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Post by on Feb 19, 2008 12:45:33 GMT -5
i like a lot of the Soulsavers album.. but too much of that dark, almost distorted stuff, vocalwise, tends to grate after a while. id rather listen to him really singing, rather than pursuing the thing that people always comment on... i hate the media-obsession (that appears in every article, review, interview) with the 'whiskey soaked', 'million cigarettes a day' 'deep and dark', 'old blues' voice.. it bores the hell out of me. the guy has a beautiful, fragile, broken voice, and a great 'rock' voice (the last 2 Trees albums showing the best of the rock voice, and the 90's solo albums showing the best of the more fragile voice). ..and i prefer those facets compared to the 'big macho gruff', or 'way too deep' stuff that has become this cliche that Josh Homme and Isobel Campbell want to use and abuse. some of that that is just 'a voice for hire' to me (although there are obviously some fucking classic moments in the Lanegan's QOTSA collaboration). for me, i think Lanegan tailed off a wee bit (from utter perfection) with I'll Take Care Of You and Field Songs... (controversial, i know). because that was the time when all the old blues and deep voiced cliches REALLY got too much. I love In The Fade on Rated R... some of the Songs for the Deaf stuff was a bit too ragged and raw for my tastes... Bubblegum - i really like. i wish he'd stepped that way before I'll Take Care / Field Songs, and i think there are actually quotes from Lanegan saying he felt he shouldnt have made Field Songs...(??) dont get me wrong, i love many of the songs on those albums (ITCOY and FS), but i think he knew he was getting fenced in with all the acoustic crooning.. so he needed to break out of it. the Soulsavers IS great, but at times it verges on that 'voice for hire' thing. erm.. i really dont know where im going with this.. ive totally lost my train of thought. each to their own i suppose. 'each to each', one might say.
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Post by e on Feb 19, 2008 13:01:06 GMT -5
so..mark is a "sellout" in some of his collaborations,for you...
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Post by Shoesh on Feb 19, 2008 13:02:37 GMT -5
"and i think there are actually quotes from Lanegan saying he felt he shouldnt have made Field Songs...(??)"
whoa!!! But that was the cd that turned me onto his music. If that's not the correct English phrase, err it's still correct in this context hahah. The first cd of his I bought.. played it so much that my cdplayer can't read it anymore.. whoa mark..
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