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Post by raeni on Jul 3, 2005 13:58:34 GMT -5
OK guys, here's the deal (once again): I set this sucker up because people like to chat. I've tried posting FAQs and warnings about what is 'acceptable' and what is not.
I have just been threatened with a lawsuit by the author of two articles that are a year old, because SOMEWHERE long ago on this board someone posted shit about the author not knowing how to do interviews, etc, and just generally trashing him.
I realize this is just a crap free message board, and a lot of people realize that what's posted here is the same kind of bullshit that appears on every message board in existence. But SOME people do take offense when people are being offensive!
I have been asked by the author to remove the articles from the site - someone took a lot of time and nicely typed those up for us, and one had nice pictures. Now they are gone - with the assurance of the author that had this upsetting incident not occurred, he and his magazine would have most likely overlooked the fact that they had been reproduced on the site.
So please, again again again - think before you type. I'm NOT saying you can't disagree or dislike something - I'm saying be polite and respectful in your discussions. ANYONE could be reading this board at any time - even a year later! If you abuse people on here, and they in turn abuse ME for this board being associated with my site, I will have to ditch it.
Anyone still wonder why the official board went away?...
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Post by solcimbrado on Jul 3, 2005 15:51:12 GMT -5
Thanks, i duno know anything.
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Post by MR GUMBY on Jul 3, 2005 20:35:25 GMT -5
Holy Shit!
I'll think twice before slagging Eddie McGuire now.
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Post by cheekym on Jul 3, 2005 21:33:23 GMT -5
bloody hell.. me want to read the article now.
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Post by cheekym on Jul 3, 2005 22:09:17 GMT -5
I don't ... Doesn't sound like something that would interest me... ... simply to form my own & possibly even objective opinion on the content of the article. thats all.
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Post by cheekym on Jul 3, 2005 22:16:20 GMT -5
You know I don't come up here like ever... Probably cause I have people in my real life to discuss (all things pertaining to Lanegan) with... I know I've only been here a short time... but I've been a fan for 10 years... I was surprised to see that there were so many others as well... Thanks Raeni for all that you do... .. ive only been a fan for a few years, didnt even know the trees stuff very well , and i dont have any friends that are into Mark (oh, theres 1 actually). Am i losing the competition? yes, & thanks Raeni.
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Post by Lava on Jul 3, 2005 23:20:00 GMT -5
Point taken. I don't even remember the article/discussion in question...
It sucks you even had to deal with this raeni. Just know you are a savior and a goddess for all that you do with this board and your site.
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Post by jonnythc on Jul 3, 2005 23:23:22 GMT -5
Point taken. I don't even remember the article/discussion in question... It sucks you even had to deal with this raeni. Just know you are a savior and a goddess for all that you do with this board and your site. ;D Thanks Lava for making a good point and making my post easier to word...I 100% agree...but most of all thanks to Mark Lanegan...otherwise this discussion would not even be taking place.
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Post by MR GUMBY on Jul 4, 2005 2:11:01 GMT -5
i remember the topic, and it was pretty agro.... but i won't go into it here (for legal reasons)
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Post by on Jul 4, 2005 14:04:35 GMT -5
bloody hell.. me want to read the article now. It was the article from Galore by Sascha Krüger.... oh, you mean Sascha Krüger, the immensely talented writer and most acclaimed thought-provoker of our times... incredible work which i admire greatly. *sneer* actually, i dont even know or care what the article was, but for someone who writes opinions to be so ridiculously paranoid and upset about someone writing an opinion about them is rather amusing... and humourless. in my humble opinion.
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Post by on Jul 4, 2005 14:11:52 GMT -5
If you abuse people on here, and they in turn abuse ME for this board being associated with my site, I will have to ditch it. Anyone still wonder why the official board went away?... i will happily take responsibility for this forum if you want to hand it over raeni... and all hell will be unleashed. Anyone still wonder why the official board went away?... because mark didnt/doesnt actually like the idea of people talking about him, especially when he has to foot the bill for the webspace?
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Post by marlboroman on Jul 4, 2005 14:20:24 GMT -5
because mark didnt/doesnt actually like the idea of people talking about him, especially when he has to foot the bill for the webspace? i can't remember the last time anyone broached the subject with anything worth reading.
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Post by raeni on Jul 4, 2005 21:04:52 GMT -5
It was the article from Galore by Sascha Krüger.... for someone who writes opinions to be so ridiculously paranoid and upset about someone writing an opinion These articles were actually interviews, and the comments seemed to consist of things like the questions being stupid/repetitive, etc. Whatever. Maybe he had a bad day and took it worse than it was. Maybe he was more upset that they had been reproduced without permission. I don't know. I'm not about to email every single publication and ask for permission to post something, but it does say right on my site that I'll gladly remove anything that the copyright holder wishes to have removed. I've never had problems with an already published article before. Professional photos that are on the site I DO have permission from the photographers for. I don't put up songs or sound clips anymore. Pretty much, I bend over backwards not to piss off, offend, or upset anyone connected with anything. And yet I still get shit for some things. Just try to be nice, that's all.
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Post by cheekym on Jul 4, 2005 21:22:00 GMT -5
someone took a lot of time and nicely typed those up for us, and one had nice pictures. Now they are gone - with the assurance of the author that had this upsetting incident not occurred, he and his magazine would have most likely overlooked the fact that they had been reproduced on the site. Let me just further clarify then: had everyone enjoyed, fawned over & generally applauded whats his faces piece, he/ they would have overlooked the fact that it had been posted on here; journalistic integrity? freedom of speech/ opinion? (to which journalists must hold a torch to) poor show / bad sport for someone in that particular field if you ask me.
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Post by harro on Jul 5, 2005 3:33:32 GMT -5
Whoever complained needs a black dog up their scphincter...fair dinkum...what a hype about a whole lotta nothing....Thanks for the barrier Raeni...you're a gem in the ruff...!!
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Post by Lava on Jul 5, 2005 10:30:25 GMT -5
Whoever complained needs a black dog up their scphincter... I think this is the kind of stuff raeni is referring to...
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Post by Lava on Jul 5, 2005 10:40:36 GMT -5
This is from raeni...
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Post by dimples on Jul 5, 2005 13:14:42 GMT -5
actually, i dont even know or care what the article was, but for someone who writes opinions to be so ridiculously paranoid and upset about someone writing an opinion about them is rather amusing... and humourless. in my humble opinion. I agree...
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Post by marlboroman on Jul 5, 2005 13:17:30 GMT -5
Nobody "launched" anything. I didn't like the interview and I gave reasons why exactly I didn't like the interview in two or three short sentences. The last point of my opinion about the interview might have been harsh, I know, but no sucking, no dicks and no fat cows were involved. But I think people can also have opinions about such minor things like articles. i agree. let's all choose sides. where there any thin cows? becaus i remember having this dream about 7 fat cows and 7 thin ones, it was a bit weird...
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Post by marlboroman on Jul 5, 2005 13:27:39 GMT -5
not if there was 7 fat dicks and 7 thin dicks. then you'd know you'd have to store some grain for the approaching famine.
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Post by Lava on Jul 5, 2005 15:17:22 GMT -5
Nobody "launched" anything. I didn't like the interview and I gave reasons why exactly I didn't like the interview in two or three short sentences. The last point of my opinion about the interview might have been harsh, I know, but no sucking, no dicks and no fat cows were involved. And I think people can also have opinions about such minor things like articles. I don't think raeni was necessarily responding to just your quote, but rather generalities. She agreed that she didn't think the article discussion was all that bad.
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Post by diecheerleader on Jul 5, 2005 19:32:48 GMT -5
no dicks or fat cows were involved in the making of this post.
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Post by diecheerleader on Jul 5, 2005 19:35:29 GMT -5
i hope the dicks and fat cows anti-defamation league isn't reading this.
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Post by raeni on Jul 5, 2005 21:15:25 GMT -5
the stuff I could find about the actual article in question - I didn't find it to be that mean or offensive, especially in comparison to other things I've read. If those comments were directed at me, would it bug me? Depends. Some days it might have pissed me off, some days I might have laughed, some days I might have read it, thought about it, and decided whether or not there was some truth to it and I needed to improve. It all depends on the day.
I'm sure it was like that for this author too - and like I said, maybe he was mostly upset that the articles had been reproduced without permission. He just seemed very upset about 'the way it was handled' and the comments.
I hate like hell to have to censor things, or to be an internet policeman. For the most part I think people expressing their opinions is good, and it always generates discussion. But more and more people are online, and paying attention to what goes on.
It has always been DREADFULLY difficult to get any Lanegan related info for the site - in the past there has been no one to ask, or no one who would answer, about the simplest things like tours and release dates. In the past few years finding that info has been 100 times easier than it was when I began the site, due to the increasing amount of peripheral sites and people who are interested in finding Lanegan info. I just want, as I have always wanted, for anyone who can and will help out with good information to feel they can trust the site to have some integrity, good judgment, and be a useful place where people will go to find things out. I don't want to become the type of place no one wants anything to do with. That is my real concern in all of this.
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Post by jonnythc on Jul 5, 2005 22:44:26 GMT -5
AMEN... and thank you Raeni
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