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Post by Risin Outlaw on Dec 31, 2013 8:44:31 GMT -5
hello, I look for any infos about the relations between Mark and Johnny. I know Mark supported Johnny Cash but I'd like to know more. Where, when, how, etc ?? Can you help me out ? Thanx a lot.
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Post by dethpod666 on Dec 31, 2013 9:05:38 GMT -5
I saw him open up of JC in Seattle 94?, 95? I think its in the tour database. We travelled from Canada just to see him. He played an unforgettable show that included Shes not for you!!! There was also a heckler who kept yelling out CASH when he was playing and Mark said something along the lines of "I do this once every 5 years so you can shut the fuck up or go outside"!!! Never forget that show.
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Post by WeirdO on Dec 31, 2013 9:12:34 GMT -5
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Post by Risin Outlaw on Dec 31, 2013 9:32:57 GMT -5
thanx a lot. I found the dates and some links on the web to download the gig but they are dead. Has someone got this show in mp3 ?
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Post by Risin Outlaw on Dec 31, 2013 10:02:04 GMT -5
Do you know how these gigs have been scheduled ? I mean has Mark been chosen by Cash ?
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Post by Grumpella on Dec 31, 2013 16:42:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I need to update the bootleg archives, I'm afraid most of the links are dead and don't want to face the sadness. As to how Mark came to open for Mr. Cash, my understanding was that he was usggested "by Johnny's people," not so much an actual pick of Johnny's. I also don't recall where I got that impression, maybe on the original thread for the boot?
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Post by spentbullets on Dec 31, 2013 19:17:12 GMT -5
Mark and Johnny maybe met while at Randall Jamail's studio while both were recording for the Twisted Willie compilation. Mark is on record as having sent some of his songs for consideration for one of Johnny's American Recordings cover albums. One or both of these factors may have influenced his opening the Seattle and Portland dates, both of which were recorded, the Portland show recorded by the same taper who recorded Lola's
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Post by username2500 on Jan 5, 2014 20:34:15 GMT -5
Miked - Live Reviews from Issue #1 Fall 1995 Johnny Cash • Mark Lanegan Rose Gardens (Portland, OR), July 30, 1995 By Grant Alden Author’s blog » Rosy-fingered dusk tripped slowly down green terrace steps, folding chairs, sculpted roses, and halfway through Mark Lanegan’s second solo show settled an indirect glow across the stage. All in the time it took Lanegan to work through a half-dozen songs from his two solo albums and Willie Nelson’s “She’s Not For You”, recorded a day earlier for a compilation. Accompanied by J. Mascis and Mike Johnson of Dinosaur Jr. (acoustic guitars), Dave Krueger (fiddle), Screaming Trees drummer Barrett Martin (upright bass) and Mudhoney’s Dan Peters (drums), Lanegan’s sad, solitary songs were warmly received by those enjoying a rare solo outing from the lead singer of the Screaming Trees. He left the stage promptly enough to satisfy those expecting a different kind of show. Still, the faint shadows were not deep enough to sustain Lanegan’s songs. His gift is his splendid, deep, resonant voice, best used to express the reticent self-examination of late nights and soiled bottles. Country music fosters a warmth between performer and audience at odds with Lanegan’s experience in the world of punk rock, and in the world at large. What was meant as unflinching honesty played to the uninitiated as monochromatic coldness. But the songs, the music, and the backing band were beautiful, a dry rose metaphorically left on stage for The Man In Black. Early on, Johnny Cash offered wry appreciation for his recent Grammy, in the category of “contemporary folk.” The lesson, though, that great music resists labels — and this should have been obvious in a set that went back to the Carter Family’s origins in the ’20s, through John Prine (whose “Mulenberg County” John Carter Cash offered during his turn in the spotlight), and into the present — was scarcely heard. Even at 63, Cash’s voice is a rare jewel, and if his two-hour show is largely a set-piece of treasured memories, they gleam no less brightly for frequent polishing. He is a big man still, elegant gray hair swept back, sturdy on stage, yet gracious and curiously soft. If the measure of an artist is his ability to endure, and to continue exploring his craft (and it is), Cash deserves the same honor bestowed upon Neil Young and Alejandro Escovedo. The evening took graceful turns through early Sun rockabilly, classic country, gospel, and a short set with the black guitar, just Cash, that spectacularly resonant sound that comes from somewhere in his upper chest, and a few fresh songs. Songs like “Drive On,” a somewhat dodgy Vietnam vet piece from American Recordings, gathered poignance in the sincere, steel timbre of live delivery. Rather than the color of his wardrobe, Cash now leaves behind a pink smile and takes evident joy in well-worn songs, in the obligatory duet with June Carter Cash — “Jackson” takes on a different resonance with June’s voice no longer girlish and sweet, but rougher and woman-worn — and hokum banter with his drummer. At this spot on his long road, Cash seems utterly at peace and completely engaged in the process of creation, still investigating new melodic possibilities in old songs. And, perhaps, invigorated by his Seattle recording session, recording Willie Nelson’s “The Time of the Preacher” with Kim Thayil, Krist Novoselic, Sean Kinney, and his son, John Carter Cash. - See more at: archives.nodepression.com/1995/09/johnny-cash-rose-gardens-portland-or/#sthash.BPSOYDy5.dpufarchives.nodepression.com/1995/09/johnny-cash-rose-gardens-portland-or/
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Post by username2500 on Jan 5, 2014 20:52:24 GMT -5
As a man in black (as if there wasn't already a man in black, even though he's dead now) Johnny Cash is Mark Lanegan's idol. Johnny Cash said he wore black because the dirt didn't show up. Sometimes he said it was because it was the cleanest dirty shirt in his closet. Monsieur Lanegan said he wore black because it was slimming. Sometimes he said it was because he didn’t care, "I'd wear nice clothes … if I cared about what people thought". Lanegan’s most recent “I don’t care” came shortly before being swallowed by a lion. (Rest assured, Mark’s a nasty tasting sob, so the lion spit him back out.)
Legend has it that concerned parties tried to persuade Mr. Lanegan to stop wearing all black on stage, since Johnny Cash already had the title of Man in Black. Lanegan briefly wore all blue, pining for the Man in Blue title instead (what do you think the Blues Funeral album title refers to, huh), but gave up that idea when he began to constantly be mistaken for the largest Smurf ever. Consequently, there was a fallout between the two artists over the Man in Black title, which was still not resolved when Johnny Cash died in 2003.
Rumor has it that underneath the black, both men wore/ wear frilly pink underpants. And when I say rumor, I mean the one(s) I'm starting.
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Post by username2500 on Jan 5, 2014 21:26:28 GMT -5
But seriously, of the Johnny Cash- Mark Lanegan link. I've read articles over the years and from memory, if I remember correctly: Lanegan didn't tour/ play music for a number of years because he wasn't interested and/or because of drug problems. He was asked to open for Johnny Cash & because of the request, owing to his respect &/or fandom of Johnny Cash, it got Lanegan to return to the stage & play a show.
From memory, Lanegan was asked- along with a number of other artists- to write songs for Johnny Cash for forthcoming albums. I believe this is when Cash was doing the American Recordings albums. Lanegan felt his stuff was too dark and dour for Mr Cash so wrote some tender footed pansy stuff. Cash & his team didn't pick any of the Lanegan offered material but did go with, for instance, that treasure of a Trent Reznor "Hurt" cover. Let us pause to appreciate the awesomeness of Johnny Cash's version of hurt. Pause, go ahead, pull it up on Youtube & listen to/ watch Hurt.
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Post by Grumpella on Jan 5, 2014 23:29:47 GMT -5
I just can't help myself.
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Post by raeni on Jan 7, 2014 15:26:53 GMT -5
If you go to onewhiskey.com and scroll to the bottom you'll find a search bar. Type in Johnny Cash, click the button for onewhiskey (as opposed to the web one), and you'll get all these articles, reviews, and more.
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Post by pilgrim on Mar 6, 2022 12:44:58 GMT -5
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Post by pilgrim on Mar 7, 2022 6:40:32 GMT -5
I listened to the concert again. I find Mark Lanegan's voice particularly beautiful on this live. No wonder Johnny Cash was impressed.
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Post by kingdomsofrain on Mar 8, 2022 6:36:56 GMT -5
I listened to the concert again. I find Mark Lanegan's voice particularly beautiful on this live. No wonder Johnny Cash was impressed. You have good taste, his voice has a supple, reedy character in the two performances from 1995, by 1998 his voice had changed significantly. Compare undertow (Especially the line “through the air I can’t breathe”) live from 95 to the various live versions from1998.. I shall be compiling a live compilation series of his entire career in the future. In 2020 I made a 1995-1998 live audience compilation from the best sources I have available. I have drafts for live compilations all the way from 1995-2020 but don’t have the time to make them all at the moment (especially the big tours). I may upload the 1995-1998 one if there is interest.
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Post by spentbullets on Mar 9, 2022 18:20:58 GMT -5
I listened to the concert again. I find Mark Lanegan's voice particularly beautiful on this live. No wonder Johnny Cash was impressed. You have good taste, his voice has a supple, reedy character in the two performances from 1995, by 1998 his voice had changed significantly. Compare undertow (Especially the line “through the air I can’t breathe”) live from 95 to the various live versions from1998.. I shall be compiling a live compilation series of his entire career in the future. In 2020 I made a 1995-1998 live audience compilation from the best sources I have available. I have drafts for live compilations all the way from 1995-2020 but don’t have the time to make them all at the moment (especially the big tours). I may upload the 1995-1998 one if there is interest. raises hand
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Post by kingdomsofrain on Mar 10, 2022 2:48:27 GMT -5
You have good taste, his voice has a supple, reedy character in the two performances from 1995, by 1998 his voice had changed significantly. Compare undertow (Especially the line “through the air I can’t breathe”) live from 95 to the various live versions from1998.. I shall be compiling a live compilation series of his entire career in the future. In 2020 I made a 1995-1998 live audience compilation from the best sources I have available. I have drafts for live compilations all the way from 1995-2020 but don’t have the time to make them all at the moment (especially the big tours). I may upload the 1995-1998 one if there is interest. raises hand Okay it’s good to go, just going to add a few notes to the txt file and listen through again and then will upload hopefully later today. The 2000 compilation is gonna be hard as there is only show (Lola’s) in decent quality so I’ll probably do 2000-2002 next and combine my drafts into a couple of sets covering this period.
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