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Post by p25jms on Dec 3, 2005 22:16:03 GMT -5
Hello everyone, I'm new to the board but have been a huge fan of Marks work for the past 12 years, can anyone direct me to a complete listing of guitar tabs and tunings?
Any help would be great, thanks in advance and hope I'm welcome here with fans of a truly amazing man
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Post by marionnette on Dec 4, 2005 1:07:13 GMT -5
I've looked and pretty much didn't find anything. A couple songs, that's it. Hope you have better luck!
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Post by dimples on Dec 4, 2005 5:39:50 GMT -5
Hi... First of all welcome... Second I'd just like to say that I'm glad there isn't this stuff out there... Not that I don't like the music(I love it)... I just really don't like the idea of people out there butchering up such wonderful songs... I'm not saying that you would... I'm just saying that it would probably happen somewhere...
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Post by thatweirdpeichill on Dec 4, 2005 14:46:37 GMT -5
Halo, I think you should reconsider your stance on this. Remember, some of Mark's great songs are other people's. He even did an entire album of covers!
I pretty much gave up on learning the guitar a few years ago because I couldn't find enough of Mark's songs to learn. I would still love to try to learn acoustic "sleep with Me."
And how do you feel about lyrics? Should the lyrics pages be deleted because fans (like me) have terrible singing voices and are butchering them when we sing them?
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Post by mongo on Dec 4, 2005 14:50:57 GMT -5
Halo, I think you should reconsider your stance on this. Remember, some of Mark's great songs are other people's. He even did an entire album of covers! I pretty much gave up on learning the guitar a few years ago because I couldn't find enough of Mark's songs to learn. I would still love to try to learn acoustic "sleep with Me." And how do you feel about lyrics? Should the lyrics pages be deleted because fans (like me) have terrible singing voices and are butchering them when we sing them? why would you quit the guitar just because there were no lanegan tabs to be found?
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Post by thatweirdpeichill on Dec 4, 2005 14:56:56 GMT -5
I get frustrated easily. And musically, Mark Lanegan was the only inspiration I had at the time.
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Post by mongo on Dec 4, 2005 14:58:56 GMT -5
ahh I see, worried me there for a minute ;D
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Post by dimples on Dec 4, 2005 21:26:52 GMT -5
Halo, I think you should reconsider your stance on this. Remember, some of Mark's great songs are other people's. He even did an entire album of covers! I pretty much gave up on learning the guitar a few years ago because I couldn't find enough of Mark's songs to learn. I would still love to try to learn acoustic "sleep with Me." And how do you feel about lyrics? Should the lyrics pages be deleted because fans (like me) have terrible singing voices and are butchering them when we sing them? Yeah I know... He did them all wonderfully too... Sorry to hear that... Lyrics to me are like the best poetry... I usually just read them... What people do in the privacy of their own home is fine with me...
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Post by marionnette on Dec 4, 2005 21:31:22 GMT -5
Honestly, guitar tabs are like music for dummies. Sorry, but really, they're not real music they're just dumbed down so you don't need to know anything to play them. I personally hate them and refuse to learn them. I am learing the proper way, with sheet music and such.
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Post by mongo on Dec 5, 2005 6:20:28 GMT -5
w000 ww0w0w0w0w0w0w ! arent you special? some people still would like to learn to play the songs, yet not have the time to be taught how to read music properly......some people can read it, some people can hear it, and some people need it simplified, But iis the chord any different ? its just a means to an end, I really, really, really dislike people with the attitude that you have.
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Post by mongo on Dec 5, 2005 6:21:11 GMT -5
I've looked and pretty much didn't find anything. A couple songs, that's it. Hope you have better luck! and really why the fuck were you even looking "dummy" ?
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Post by littleredrooster on Dec 5, 2005 6:27:55 GMT -5
w000 ww0w0w0w0w0w0w ! arent you special? some people still would like to learn to play the songs, yet not have the time to be taught how to read music properly......some people can read it, some people can hear it, and some people need it simplified, But iis the chord any different ? its just a means to an end, I really, really, really dislike people with the attitude that you have. you know, mongo, everyday, my love is bigger...
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Post by marionnette on Dec 5, 2005 10:24:28 GMT -5
Seeing how I've spent 8 years studying music I find tabs lame, but seeing how there is nothing else out there it is kind of the only way to learn the songs of others without perfect pitch or fumbling around for hours. Seriously, I don't care if everything is written in staff notations, but tabs have no indications of what you're playing other than frets, no notes, no rythms, no dynamics, nothing. It just doesn't hit me as real music. Reminds me more of a fingering chart, which is basically what it is.
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Post by harleyquinn on Dec 5, 2005 10:44:42 GMT -5
Ok, but that's just the thing, you know... it's a matter of personal taste. i'm all for improvising. Some people could call it "butchering"; i call it "interpretation". Different people, different needs and points of view... and I'm glad, otherwise the world would be a seriously boring place.
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Post by marionnette on Dec 5, 2005 10:48:24 GMT -5
Improvisation is fine, but you still need to know what you're doing to do so. You can't just hammer away on whatever you want, it's going to sound like ass. You may be making it up on the spot but there's still set rules put in place by whatever you are playing.
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Post by mongo on Dec 5, 2005 10:57:10 GMT -5
so people who do not know the rules or are not "studied" like yourself cannot make good music ? I
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Post by jonnythc on Dec 5, 2005 11:18:18 GMT -5
thats what he said. it's the new law. so fuck the fuck fuckers
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Post by mongo on Dec 5, 2005 11:22:54 GMT -5
im so depressed, ive got about 900 cd's i need to throw away
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Post by harleyquinn on Dec 5, 2005 11:32:15 GMT -5
Improvisation is fine, but you still need to know what you're doing to do so. You can't just hammer away on whatever you want, it's going to sound like ass. You may be making it up on the spot but there's still set rules put in place by whatever you are playing. ... and many musicians, never learned to play, except from practice and couldn't read music. i'll leave the research to you.
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Post by on Dec 5, 2005 12:05:07 GMT -5
Seeing how I've spent 8 years studying music I find tabs lame, but seeing how there is nothing else out there it is kind of the only way to learn the songs of others without perfect pitch or fumbling around for hours. Seriously, I don't care if everything is written in staff notations, but tabs have no indications of what you're playing other than frets, no notes, no rythms, no dynamics, nothing. It just doesn't hit me as real music. Reminds me more of a fingering chart, which is basically what it is. you are ridiculous. do you think mark lanegan can even read sheet music? i GUARANTEE he cant. he has no theoretical knowledge of music. Lee Conner of the Trees has, in the past, admitted to not even understanding TAB... didnt stop him writing and playing their songs. im sure that, as a musician of some training, you are capable of playing and working out dynamics and stuff by yourself...? ultimately, sheet music is open to interpretation and misreading just as much as tab... also, a well-constructed tablature DOES contain rhythm, can have notes, and can indicate dynamics... what is the point of a note having a name? it is so you know what to play. it is to indicate. to direct. surely a tablature that tells you where and what to play is indicating to you which note to play? same difference, isnt it? your argument about dynamics, rythms (sic) and notes is ultimately flawed because only an overly-'trained' or musician or a complete novice is incapable of noticing the 'feel' of the performance, particularly when it is a piece of recorded music which they presumably have a copy of (hence them attempting to play it). so yeah, tab is flawed. so is sheet music. it's like me asking you to paint a picture of the mona lisa... i could explain to you that it is a picture of a woman with dark hair, what angle it is, the colours you need, the background etc... THAT is your tablature or sheet music. if i combined that with actually showing it to you, it would make a fuckload more sense. armed with this, if you were a great painter, you'd be fine. im currently a lecturer in music technology... and i can barely read a note of theory. it's all just birds on wires. you are living in the dark ages. in popular music... in fact, in many different areas of music... traditional theory is almost completely redundant. i wouldnt judge a painter on whether he had a degree in the theory of painting. i would judge him by his ability at painting.
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Post by jonnythc on Dec 5, 2005 12:07:29 GMT -5
Seeing how I've spent 8 years studying music I find tabs lame, but seeing how there is nothing else out there it is kind of the only way to learn the songs of others without perfect pitch or fumbling around for hours. Seriously, I don't care if everything is written in staff notations, but tabs have no indications of what you're playing other than frets, no notes, no rythms, no dynamics, nothing. It just doesn't hit me as real music. Reminds me more of a fingering chart, which is basically what it is. you are ridiculous. do you think mark lanegan can even read sheet music? i GUARANTEE he cant. he has no theoretical knowledge of music. Lee Conner of the Trees has, in the past, admitted to not even understanding TAB... didnt stop him writing and playing their songs. im sure that, as a musician of some training, you are capable of playing and working out dynamics and stuff by yourself...? ultimately, sheet music is open to interpretation and misreading just as much as tab... also, a well-constructed tablature DOES contain rhythm, can have notes, and can indicate dynamics... what is the point of a note having a name? it is so you know what to play. it is to indicate. to direct. surely a tablature that tells you where and what to play is indicating to you which note to play? same difference, isnt it? your argument about dynamics, rythms (sic) and notes is ultimately flawed because only an overly-'trained' or musician or a complete novice is incapable of noticing the 'feel' of the performance, particularly when it is a piece of recorded music which they presumably have a copy of (hence them attempting to play it). so yeah, tab is flawed. so is sheet music. it's like me asking you to paint a picture of the mona lisa... i could explain to you that it is a picture of a woman with dark hair, what angle it is, the colours you need, the background etc... THAT is your tablature or sheet music. if i combined that with actually showing it to you, it would make a fuckload more sense. armed with this, if you were a great painter, you'd be fine. im currently a lecturer in music technology... and i can barely read a note of theory. it's all just birds on wires. you are living in the dark ages. in popular music... in fact, in many different areas of music... traditional theory is almost completely redundant. i wouldnt judge a painter on whether he had a degree in the theory of painting. i would judge him by his ability at painting. ;D give it to him in the pooper man
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Post by dimples on Dec 5, 2005 12:21:07 GMT -5
I heard it took m0ng0 only seconds to get down the wailing soul scream... He just picked it up and instinctively knew what to do...
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Post by littleredrooster on Dec 5, 2005 12:34:21 GMT -5
i don't think kurt cobain ever knew what was a spanish scale in f. but he had that sense of the melody. which is way more important for pop music. being technical doesn't imply you're a genius...
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Post by katey on Dec 5, 2005 13:42:28 GMT -5
wow, does every post today mention Kurt Cobain?
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Post by mongo on Dec 5, 2005 13:46:02 GMT -5
bah, he was just some no talent wanker
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