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Post by Daisy on Sept 29, 2004 10:36:23 GMT -5
Does anyone else read Slate Magazine ( slate.msn.com/)? More importantly, has anyone been keeping up on the "election scorecard"? The scorecard reports that if the election were held today, Bush would win. Bush (314 electoral votes) Kerry (224 electoral votes) I hate Bush. I'm not exactly thrilled with Kerry but I want Bush out of there. If you ask me, Kerry blew his chances a while back, big time. I don't really have a good sense about what he would do as president and that seems to be the opinion of other Kerry followers.
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Post by Lava on Sept 29, 2004 10:43:16 GMT -5
argh....this is so damn aggravating. I can't live happily with Bush in office for another 4 years.
I saw another poll 3 days ago that said they were pretty much tied, swing states notwithstanding.
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Post by Daisy on Sept 29, 2004 10:45:30 GMT -5
I am not joking when I say I want to move to another country. I want to move to France. Wait, no, I can't speak french. Maybe England. Or Ireland. Yah, Ireland.
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Post by Lava on Sept 29, 2004 10:52:35 GMT -5
I don't bame you. I've joked about doing that quite a bit.
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Post by Daisy on Sept 29, 2004 10:55:24 GMT -5
I have so many gripes about the States. The older I get and the more I know and understand about the intricacies of our warped culture, the faster I want to get the hell out of here.
And now with the very real possibility that Bush will be re-elected, I desperately want out!
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Post by Lava on Sept 29, 2004 11:08:09 GMT -5
I'd love to stay & commiserate together, but I have to go to work
Bye Daisy...feel better soon (from your cold)
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Post by Daisy on Sept 29, 2004 11:11:09 GMT -5
Aw, I wish you could stick around too. I'm home all day. I'm seriously out of commission with this cold or flu or strep throat or whatever the hell it is I have.
Have fun at work though.
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Post by Shoesh on Sept 29, 2004 11:27:15 GMT -5
Daisy, you must follow the good example of the likes of Mark and move to Europe.
yeaaaaaah imagine all the GREAT shows you'll get to see and you'll become my neighbour so to speak lol
cool
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Post by Daisy on Sept 29, 2004 11:30:28 GMT -5
Mark moved to Europe?! He lives in Europe now? Whoa. I didn't know that.
We can't me started. The extremist, impulsive type of person I am, I would spend this afternoon packing.
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Post by Shoesh on Sept 29, 2004 11:36:59 GMT -5
there's this new interview on onewhiskey.com in which Mark mentions he's living in Antwerp for a while. This was 2 months ago or so.
Go read silly!!!!
and after that.. start packing
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Post by Daisy on Sept 29, 2004 12:00:03 GMT -5
"MAGNET woke up at dawn to chat with Lanegan, vacationing six hours ahead in Antwerp, Belgium. Magnet: Are you on tour? Mark: I'm living here. I got a bunch of friends here. Just felt like hangin' for a few weeks."
OH! It sounds to me like he was just there for a bit, staying in a small apartment maybe or something. I don’t think he’s actually living there though Shonie.
“Magnet: Was the recording process a creative free-for-all, or did you come in with a blueprint? Mark: Listen to it. Of course I've got a blueprint. Am I gonna have to kick your ass?â€
*snicker* That was funny.
“Magnet: Lyrically, or musically? Mark: Lyrically, there's an emotional ... There's an overall feeling from it. That's what I mean. It's the 'x' factor that comes from the combo of music, voice and melody. Do I have to write the story for you?â€
Ouch. That was kind of mean.
“Magnet: What are you thinking about for covers? Can you talk about that? Mark: Yeah. I'm going to do crooner tunes. Andy Williams. Shit like that.â€
Awesome! A little “Sleigh Ride†action for ya. I think the album title should be, “Mark Lanegan sings Andy Williams’s Christmas Carols.†Or maybe just a Vegas show. I think Lanegan could do a wonderful rendition of “Moon River.â€
“Mark: Bush is something else, isn't he? Magnet: He is something else. Mark: That's why America fuckin' sucks right now, because of George Bush, Dick Cheney and everyone that's part of that government.â€
I think I love that man.
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Post by Shoesh on Sept 29, 2004 12:07:47 GMT -5
I thought he'd be around for a while cus further in the interview he mentions that he's doing a lot of recording thhere. And that it's the main reason why he's in belgium. anyhoo it explains why I keep having the urge to stay in the train on my way home.. it's last stop is Antwerpen great interview ey?? very funny
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Post by melaniewhorehouse on Sept 29, 2004 12:19:48 GMT -5
Back on topic...
I think that Bush has overtaken Kerry because (to these non-US eyes anyway) people are starting to get bored of Kerry's ceaseless "Vote for me because I've got a War Record and I'm not George Bush" rhetoric. Bush may be dropping nut after nut both home and abroad, but at least he's being seen to be actually doing something, as opposed to John "Hello, I fought in a War that everyone was ashamed about until apparently recently" Kerry's complete non-committal about what he actually plans to do about the USA's current domestic and international financial black holes. And even his War record is going to go against him eventually - if he says "we're pulling out of Iraq" he'll lose all the support from the neo-patriots, and if he says "we're staying in Iraq", he'll lose pretty much everyone else. It's the problem with Stalin's Cult of Personality - it doesn't work in a 2-horse democracy when personality has to be backed up with substance, and at the moment he's got too much of the former and absolutely none of the latter. Maybe if he comes up with a firm manifesto for what he plans for the country, then possibly people'll start listening to him again. For now though, the man is offering nothing.
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Post by Daisy on Sept 29, 2004 12:26:15 GMT -5
Excellent points. That was what I was saying earlier but you added much, much more. When I said Kerry blew it a while back, what you said was exactly what I was going for. We have no real idea what he plans on doing if he became president. And now, it is too late in my opinion. He lost a lot of people at a very crucial time period.
I think Dean would have been a much better choice. Dean was much more forward about his plans but he was seen as a weak person I think and Kerry was not. Anyway, I think something backfired and now we're in for it.
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Post by mongo on Sept 29, 2004 12:33:11 GMT -5
kerry is his own worst enemy.....and his loudmouth wife ;D
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Post by Shoesh on Sept 29, 2004 12:35:41 GMT -5
you guys are always welcome here in Europe ;D
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Post by mongo on Sept 29, 2004 12:45:03 GMT -5
transylvania here i come !!! ;D
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Post by BAPTIST WITH HIS HEAD CUT OFF on Sept 29, 2004 20:00:22 GMT -5
i live in america, and i am going to vote........randomly, because i don't really a shit, if bush is persident, fuck him, and if kerry is president, fuck him.
the fact remains that i am poor, i will stay poor, and truthfully i don't give a shit abou that either cause i'm happy, and no president is going to make me happier, or sadder.
fuck it all.
unles arnold gets to run, he's my governor, and he's buff, and he's short, and he would kill for me.
i love schwarzenegger.
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Post by LDG on Sept 29, 2004 22:06:37 GMT -5
I'm not voting for Dumbfuck Dubya, that's for sure. He doesn't support Stem cell research which could help us cure cancer, he sat for several minutes lookin' like a 'tard when he was told the WTC was under attack, he's killed too many of our American soldiers in that bullshit war and he's not man enough to admit he fucked up and bring our boys back home. He's gonna start a draft. Howard Stern was takin' off 6 stations b/c he was deemed "indecent". Our freedom of speech is threatened now more than ever. I HATE HIS FUCKIN' GUTS, DIE TWAT!
I can't wait for November 2nd, rock the vote biatch.
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Post by marlboroman on Sept 30, 2004 7:35:12 GMT -5
whoever said they were going to leave america, your best bet would be to stay there, there won't be much of anywhere else left soon enough.
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Post by Lava on Sept 30, 2004 23:55:38 GMT -5
I'm not voting for Dumbfuck Dubya, that's for sure. He doesn't support Stem cell research which could help us cure cancer, he sat for several minutes lookin' like a 'tard when he was told the WTC was under attack, he's killed too many of our American soldiers in that bullshit war and he's not man enough to admit he fucked up and bring our boys back home. He's gonna start a draft. Howard Stern was takin' off 6 stations b/c he was deemed "indecent". Our freedom of speech is threatened now more than ever. I HATE HIS FUCKIN' GUTS, DIE TWAT! I can't wait for November 2nd, rock the vote biatch. I agree with you LDG... (don't forget to bring the female soldiers back home, too) AND even more importantly, our freedom of CHOICE is threatened now more than ever.
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Post by stonedtemple_pilot on Oct 1, 2004 0:04:33 GMT -5
he's not man enough to admit he fucked up and bring our boys back home. He didn't fuck up. He did exactly what he wanted to which was to spend billions of taxpayer dollars on a war & subsequent reconstruction of Iraq through a few companies owned by he & his already very wealthy friends. What boggles my mind is that many Americans are cool with this as they get poorer & poorer, watching the deficit spiral out of control & their fellow countrymen (& women) die as a result of this. Not to mention the THOUSANDS of innocent Iraqis. Who gives a shit about them? Not the corrupt Iraqi(read: American) government who's in on all of this.
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Post by Lava on Oct 1, 2004 0:14:52 GMT -5
well said
it certainly boggles my mind and saddens me that people are so gullible
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Post by stonedtemple_pilot on Oct 1, 2004 0:20:51 GMT -5
That deficit thing will cripple the American economy later. Vote for Bush & you're a fool.
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Post by Lava on Oct 1, 2004 0:26:15 GMT -5
its already crippling us
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