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Post by bibi on Dec 25, 2011 13:39:02 GMT -5
I really hope that the release is really pushed back because it's a real pain in the ass not being able to discuss the songs with you, I can't wait for all of you to listen to it and we can share opinions!
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Post by Grumpella on Dec 25, 2011 13:49:30 GMT -5
Gah! We don't want it pushed back - we want it brought forward!  |
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Post by bibi on Dec 25, 2011 14:21:44 GMT -5
Hahaha, wrong choice of words! |
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Post by wheels132 on Dec 25, 2011 19:44:59 GMT -5
Bibi, I understand that you cannot provide details and that you've only listened to it once (or twice?), but can you tell us if you enjoyed the album? Again I know you can't provide details, was just curious if you liked it or not. Sounds to me like you dig it  |
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Post by bibi on Dec 26, 2011 5:54:33 GMT -5
Well, I only listened to it once by myself but as I'm weak, the other day I was with a few friends and we listened to it like 4 times in a row! From what I heard, I really really dig it, there's a few songs that stuck out like Quiver Syndrom (it's really rock, could have been on Bubblegum), Ode to Sad Disco (really electro/new wave), Bleeding Bloody Water (slow but intense song, the kind that grows on me), there's not one song on it that I didn't like but it's a dense album and it will probably require many listenings before we get into all the songs, which, in my opinion, is the mark of great albums! |
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Post by wheels132 on Dec 26, 2011 7:48:47 GMT -5
Well, I only listened to it once by myself but as I'm weak, the other day I was with a few friends and we listened to it like 4 times in a row! From what I heard, I really really dig it, there's a few songs that stuck out like Quiver Syndrom (it's really rock, could have been on Bubblegum), Ode to Sad Disco (really electro/new wave), Bleeding Bloody Water (slow but intense song, the kind that grows on me), there's not one song on it that I didn't like but it's a dense album and it will probably require many listenings before we get into all the songs, which, in my opinion, is the mark of great albums! Perfect response, thank you! Can't wait to hear it |
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Post by bibi on Dec 26, 2011 9:20:49 GMT -5
Glad I could help! |
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Post by frauleinkül on Dec 26, 2011 17:06:07 GMT -5
Well, I only listened to it once by myself but as I'm weak, the other day I was with a few friends and we listened to it like 4 times in a row! From what I heard, I really really dig it, there's a few songs that stuck out like Quiver Syndrom (it's really rock, could have been on Bubblegum), Ode to Sad Disco (really electro/new wave), Bleeding Bloody Water (slow but intense song, the kind that grows on me), there's not one song on it that I didn't like but it's a dense album and it will probably require many listenings before we get into all the songs, which, in my opinion, is the mark of great albums! I'm so ridiculously excited to hear this album - and 'Ode to Sad Disco' in particular ;D |
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Post by Grumpella on Dec 26, 2011 18:30:33 GMT -5
Fraulein, has your name always ended in "kül" and I only just now noticed it isn't "kiil"?
I feel very embarrassed.
Hiding under my couch now.
Will come out when I have Blues Funeral to listen to.
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Post by SheBangsTheTrums on Dec 26, 2011 22:21:39 GMT -5
Fraulein, has your name always ended in "kül" and I only just now noticed it isn't "kiil"? I feel very embarrassed. Hiding under my couch now. Will come out when I have Blues Funeral to listen to. I am joining you too |
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Post by Psychotropic Snake on Dec 26, 2011 23:18:05 GMT -5
Fraulein, has your name always ended in "kül" and I only just now noticed it isn't "kiil"? I feel very embarrassed. Hiding under my couch now. Will come out when I have Blues Funeral to listen to. I am joining you too I noticed the change a couple of weeks ago. But I'll join the ladies if they don't mind ;D |
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Post by kingdomsofrain on Dec 27, 2011 9:02:02 GMT -5
Well, I only listened to it once by myself but as I'm weak, the other day I was with a few friends and we listened to it like 4 times in a row! From what I heard, I really really dig it, there's a few songs that stuck out like Quiver Syndrom (it's really rock, could have been on Bubblegum), Ode to Sad Disco (really electro/new wave), Bleeding Bloody Water (slow but intense song, the kind that grows on me), there's not one song on it that I didn't like but it's a dense album and it will probably require many listenings before we get into all the songs, which, in my opinion, is the mark of great albums!  Im starting to get worried and depressed now, the 'really/electro/new wave' thing has got me particularly concerned and along with the gravediggers song (whilst it has grown on me its no 'one way street'.) im becoming afraid that i might not like this as a complete album all that much. |
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Post by silence on Dec 27, 2011 9:19:09 GMT -5
Really looking forward to seeing this interview when it comes out (through a very good friend of a friend, I got to contribute a few of the questions asked)! And the more I hear about the new album, the more I can't wait to hear it - there's yet to be a Mark Lanegan album released to date that I've not enjoyed from start to finish, either as individual parts or whole pieces, and see no reason to be even slightly worried now. If he's prepared to push the boundaries of what he wants to write and perform, I'm more than happy to push the boundaries of what I listen to in order to include it |
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Post by kingdomsofrain on Dec 27, 2011 9:47:08 GMT -5
Very good point and the right approach but for purely selfish reasons i like my Lanegan stripped down and melodic, i don't want him to push boundaries. I don't want a rain dogs or a black rider i just want songs that suit that wonderful voice and to me thats whiskey...-field songs era. From an artistic point of view i can completely understand why Mark would want to push boundaries and not repeat himself but i miss the folky acoustic stuff after the weird chill/bubblegum material.
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Post by Psychotropic Snake on Dec 27, 2011 11:41:58 GMT -5
I must confess I would've liked some sort of throwback to the more acoustic moments of his work (even though I'm not a big fan of Scraps, Because Of This, Bell Black Ocean and Day And Night aside) but I'm not worried about BF. In fact, I think it's a good sign that Mark is trying to push boundaries. I think I rather like the idea of him going totally weird. Mark Lanegan produced by Four Tet, for example. Or Mark backed by horn sections, flutes and all sorts of percussion. Wow. I'd love to hear that. So I'm prepared and eager to listen to whatever he has in store.
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Post by frauleinkül on Dec 27, 2011 11:53:35 GMT -5
Fraulein, has your name always ended in "kül" and I only just now noticed it isn't "kiil"? I feel very embarrassed. Hiding under my couch now. Will come out when I have Blues Funeral to listen to. Don't worry, Grumpella - it used to be 'kiil', but I changed for no other reason than change (and it kind of looks the same ) |
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Post by silence on Dec 27, 2011 12:19:41 GMT -5
I agree that it would be lovely to hear him do stuff like he did from Whiskey for the Holy Ghost to Field Songs, but we have the luxury of being able to pick up his albums between Whiskey for the Holy Ghost and listen to him on there. The past is always there to listen to. As he has gotten older and the way that he sings (giving up smoking for one has had a substantial effect) and the outlook he has on his various subject matter (compare the way he writes and sings about drugs from anything on Bubblegum to the Soulsavers' 'All The Way Down') has altered, it's no surprise that he might want to have a crack at something a bit more leftfield and away from his own comfort zone. Also, he comes across in interviews (both with himself and those close to him) as having a varied and voracious appetite when it comes to what he listens to, so it's again no surprise that he hears something somewhere, likes it and fancies having a crack at it himself. The thing that's making me the least worried about all of this though is that, going off the opinions of the few people that either know or have read, the consensus seems to be the same as the pre-release buzz surrounding HCTWC and Bubblegum - it's undeniably Mark Lanegan at the helm, it's a bit different, and it's very, VERY good. Can't wait to hear it for myself |
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Post by wheels132 on Dec 27, 2011 13:43:44 GMT -5
Very good point and the right approach but for purely selfish reasons i like my Lanegan stripped down and melodic, i don't want him to push boundaries. I don't want a rain dogs or a black rider i just want songs that suit that wonderful voice and to me thats whiskey...-field songs era. From an artistic point of view i can completely understand why Mark would want to push boundaries and not repeat himself but i miss the folky acoustic stuff after the weird chill/bubblegum material. I understand where you're coming from dude, I would kill to hear Mark write something new with Mike Johnson again--those two together were like magic. I almost shat when I first heard the synths on Weird Chill/Bubblegum, "what the fuck is this?!" But I came to realize that songs were pretty f'ing good. Now throughout his collaborations with so many others, I welcome anything he wants to try--the man has never made a bad album, that's a lot more than most artists can say. I guess what I mean is I've quickly learned not to doubt this man when it comes to trying something new. I'm not saying you're doubting him, guess I'm just saying that there's always hope that you'll be pleasantly surprised... we shall see soon enough! |
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Post by thatdamnracket on Dec 27, 2011 15:41:47 GMT -5
I almost shat when I first heard the synths on Weird Chill/Bubblegum, "what the fuck is this?!" But I came to realize that songs were pretty f'ing good. Now throughout his collaborations with so many others, I welcome anything he wants to try--the man has never made a bad album, that's a lot more than most artists can say. Same here. When I first heard the Weird Chill/Bubblegum batch of songs after buying the releases, I put them away and was not a happy camper. But yes, over time, the songs came back and now I have fully embraced the heavier sounding Mark. In fact, Bubblegum/Chill are probably my faves now. Its great when an artist does that and pulls it off! Yes, every one of his releases have been superb and I too cannot wait for the new one! |
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Post by bibi on Dec 28, 2011 6:39:53 GMT -5
I understand that you're worried, actually I think some of you won't like the new turn he's taking. Personally, I couldn't be happier... I actually feared that after Bubblegum, he would go back to a more stripped down album and even though I love his older stuff, i wanted him to get out of his comfort zone. it's exactly what he did on BF. When you get the album, I think you should all listen to it several times before making a judgement. When my friend gave it to me, she told me she was disappointed because everything sounded the same, i asked her if she felt the same way a few days later and she told me that she didn't and that she loved it now... (it's a good thing considering that she'll be the one writing the review) Give it a chance, I think you won't be disappointed! |
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Post by comejanuary on Dec 28, 2011 7:22:15 GMT -5
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Post by kingdomsofrain on Dec 28, 2011 8:18:31 GMT -5
Im sure i'll still like it but nearly 8 years on im still not a big fan of bubblegum (or weird chill) compared to his earlier stuff. Its never grown on me in the same way. Im sure BF will be far better than most new music produced today but i love classic singer/songwriter's like Fred Neil, Tim Biuckley, Tim Hardin etc My taste is very varied and i love everything from 1920's blues and gospel, to folk to hip hop (Jedi Mind tricks stylee), to Andrea Bocelli to kyuss, to Neurosis etc etc
The replies have been really great though and cheered me up a lot, i don't mean to be negative just finding it hard to be as enthusiastic as usual (i think the live solo tour and the versions of long black vanishing train built my hopes up).
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Post by pin964 on Dec 28, 2011 9:24:24 GMT -5
I understand that you're worried, actually I think some of you won't like the new turn he's taking. Personally, I couldn't be happier... I actually feared that after Bubblegum, he would go back to a more stripped down album and even though I love his older stuff, i wanted him to get out of his comfort zone. it's exactly what he did on BF. When you get the album, I think you should all listen to it several times before making a judgement. When my friend gave it to me, she told me she was disappointed because everything sounded the same, i asked her if she felt the same way a few days later and she told me that she didn't and that she loved it now... (it's a good thing considering that she'll be the one writing the review) Give it a chance, I think you won't be disappointed! Bibi, what could you tell us about Mark's vocal performance? Which track(s) did you find more interesting on that side? Still now, I don't know what thinking about his work on The Gravedigger's Song... Anyway, in my opinion, the musical arrangement works better than ever! |
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Post by revelator on Dec 28, 2011 14:43:55 GMT -5
I love the heavy/experimental Mark - Weird Chill / Bubblegum / Soulsavers...,
so the new album will be very interesting to hear!!
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Post by kingdomsofrain on Dec 28, 2011 15:10:27 GMT -5
I love the heavy/experimental Mark - Weird Chill / Bubblegum / Soulsavers..., so the new album will be very interesting to hear!! Do you prefer it to his older stuff? |
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